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Either Fe is blindsiding me, or I'm seriously an ENFP...

Kenneth Almighty

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... because I swear to God I used to be more rational than this.

Or maybe I've been trying to become more emotionally aware, I don't know. Is it Fe or Fi that deals in the business of emotional breakdowns and analyzing relationships, particularly my own? That sounds to me as if I've set up some sort of internal standard and the fact certain things in the world (my behavior, my girlfriend) are failing to meet up to these faux standards, which then upsets me. The funny thing is that this level of whatever-it-is hasn't surfaced this intensely before and I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not this is a phase and whether or not I should care. Bleh.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure that my baseline type is ENTP (feel free to disagree). And, if it isn't, then I'm pretty sure that F and T are in an arena fighting to the death for dominance of my character (I want T to win).
 

Aleksei

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Sounds very much like Fi rather than Fe; so yes, you are turning into an ENFP.
 

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i think all male enfps think they're entps.
 

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... because I swear to God I used to be more rational than this.

Or maybe I've been trying to become more emotionally aware, I don't know. Is it Fe or Fi that deals in the business of emotional breakdowns and analyzing relationships, particularly my own? That sounds to me as if I've set up some sort of internal standard and the fact certain things in the world (my behavior, my girlfriend) are failing to meet up to these faux standards, which then upsets me. The funny thing is that this level of whatever-it-is hasn't surfaced this intensely before and I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not this is a phase and whether or not I should care. Bleh.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure that my baseline type is ENTP (feel free to disagree). And, if it isn't, then I'm pretty sure that F and T are in an arena fighting to the death for dominance of my character (I want T to win).

Ken, I'd suggest if you are between 20-30 you are seeing tert Fe growing in. From the entps I have watched it can come in spurts and be very conflicting to them at times-especially in men. An enfp will be growing tert Te and becoming more assertive and less willing to comply with others opinions where entps grow into the opposite direction, become more aware of social standards, group expectations and can become exceptionally caring as they age.

Here is a test I made up in 30 sec:
When people start arguing loudly around you or speaking very directly at you do you:
a) feel assertive and become stressed but proactive and almost combative
b) Become stressed and then become very calm, rational, quiet and feel the need to withdraw from the chaos-feel like the calm in the midst of the storm.

When interacting with a group and giving directions do you:
a) speak in terms of individuals-you do this and i will do this
b) in terms of the group-we will work together to accomplish these goals.
 

Aleksei

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i think all male enfps think they're entps.
I have several male ENFP friends and acquaintances. I find a strong tertiary Fe (which I have and most MBTI tests mistake for borderline F) is far superior to an aux Fi though; Fi is a spoiled brat of a function.
 

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I have several male ENFP friends and acquaintances. I find a strong tertiary Fe (which I have and most MBTI tests mistake for borderline F) is far superior to an aux Fi though; Fi is a spoiled brat of a function.

:girlfight:
 

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I rest my case. :tongue:
 

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says the guy who states his functions are far superior!!
 
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... because I swear to God I used to be more rational than this.

Or maybe I've been trying to become more emotionally aware, I don't know. Is it Fe or Fi that deals in the business of emotional breakdowns and analyzing relationships, particularly my own? That sounds to me as if I've set up some sort of internal standard and the fact certain things in the world (my behavior, my girlfriend) are failing to meet up to these faux standards, which then upsets me. The funny thing is that this level of whatever-it-is hasn't surfaced this intensely before and I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not this is a phase and whether or not I should care. Bleh.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure that my baseline type is ENTP (feel free to disagree). And, if it isn't, then I'm pretty sure that F and T are in an arena fighting to the death for dominance of my character (I want T to win).

eerm, I do this all the time (checking whether my bf, friends, parents match my personal standards), and I am defitively Fe....so I think it could definitively be tertiary Fe setting in....
 

Kenneth Almighty

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Ken, I'd suggest if you are between 20-30 you are seeing tert Fe growing in. From the entps I have watched it can come in spurts and be very conflicting to them at times-especially in men. An enfp will be growing tert Te and becoming more assertive and less willing to comply with others opinions where entps grow into the opposite direction, become more aware of social standards, group expectations and can become exceptionally caring as they age.

Here is a test I made up in 30 sec:
When people start arguing loudly around you or speaking very directly at you do you:
a) feel assertive and become stressed but proactive and almost combative
b) Become stressed and then become very calm, rational, quiet and feel the need to withdraw from the chaos-feel like the calm in the midst of the storm.

When interacting with a group and giving directions do you:
a) speak in terms of individuals-you do this and i will do this
b) in terms of the group-we will work together to accomplish these goals.

Over the past week I've had good examples of both, so if the As are typing for NFP and the Bs for NTP, I've initially been B (withdrawing from argument and trying to calm down) then hitting off to A.

ENFP.

i think all male enfps think they're entps.

So I think she's right.

I have several male ENFP friends and acquaintances. I find a strong tertiary Fe (which I have and most MBTI tests mistake for borderline F) is far superior to an aux Fi though; Fi is a spoiled brat of a function.

I agree which is why I'm kind of scared. Actually, me just saying that now probably put the stake in the heart of this "issue".
 

Aleksei

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I agree which is why I'm kind of scared. Actually, me just saying that now probably put the stake in the heart of this "issue".
Indeed. Disregard what I said about my own functions though... I realized earlier I'm actually ENFP, I've just been thinking I was T all this time because I have a freakishly strong tertiary Te.
 

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haha! whaat?! after you called my fi a brat!
 

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I'm an Fi brat too, so we're even no? :D
 

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Aleksei

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yeah the more I think about it the more it makes sense. I want everybody to like me (and most people do like me :happy2:), I'm not really exacting (higher Ti users are grammar nazis), and I actually think in a very organized manner (proving strong Te). I'd say I'm an astoundingly unmotivated NTJ, except I'm Ne on crack and my Ni sucks.
 

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I had a hard time typing myself. The person who help me confirm my type was a woman named Vicky Jo. She has sixteen years experience in MBTI. Check out her website. She gives out free 30 minute coaching. Here is the website ....Type Insights I was having a hard time determining if I was enfj or enfp. She help me confirm I was enfp.
 
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