esfp or enfp? honestlyyy

[jenocyde]

this is because she would get very frustrated when I wouldn't regularly clean my side of the room

Nobody wants to live in anyone else's filth.

she would be very easy going usually, but she certainly ALWAYS had plans, and she liked to have fun within those plans, if they got changed slightly thats fine

I always have plans, too... that doesn't really mean much. The question is how often does she follow through with her plans

she misunderstood me to the point of us deciding it would be better NOT to room together anymore. not that we arent still friends. but actual conversations about something serious? she ignores anything serious, deep, or irrelevant to the current moment.

Sounds like every ENFP that I've ever met...

but dont you think we get a certain vibe from others of the same type whom we meet in person?

No, not always. I usually vibe with people who are the opposite of me - people that have what I lack or admire. That, or people who are slightly different - like my introverted brethren.

 

[Timeless]

ENFP = Marijuana
ESFP = Cocaine

 

[gigi_xo]

Nobody wants to live in anyone else's filth.



Nothing filthy. I would be cluttered. she was being a brat.

I always have plans, too... that doesn't really mean much. The question is how often does she follow through with her plans

more often than not


Sounds like every ENFP that I've ever met...

how so?

No, not always. I usually vibe with people who are the opposite of me - people that have what I lack or admire. That, or people who are slightly different - like my introverted brethren.

INFPs are best. we click but dont compete for the spotlight.

 

[gigi_xo]

ENFP = Marijuana
ESFP = Cocaine

I dont know you, but that makes me love you.

 

[jenocyde]

I don't get the emoticon...

Anyway, what you feel is her being a brat may just have been you not wanting to acknowledge that your clutter was really bothering her. This is what I meant by avoiding any serious conversation - I mean serious conversations that implicate the person in question. Everything is fine and dandy unless you want to talk about something personal about your (collectively) character. I find ENFPs to get very defensive and dismissive, very quickly. Maybe *she* tried to get deep with *you* and felt like you brushed her off, the way you are doing here.

And misunderstanding or misreading is par for the course with the type as well.

Not to say that you guys aren't lovely in other respects, but I don't see how anything you wrote discounts her as an ENFP.

 

[gigi_xo]

I don't get the emoticon...

Anyway, what you feel is her being a brat may just have been you not wanting to acknowledge that your clutter was really bothering her. This is what I meant by avoiding any serious conversation - I mean serious conversations that implicate the person in question. Everything is fine and dandy unless you want to talk about something personal about your (collectively) character. I find ENFPs to get very defensive and dismissive, very quickly. Maybe *she* tried to get deep with *you* and felt like you brushed her off, the way you are doing here.

And misunderstanding or misreading is par for the course with the type as well.

Not to say that you guys aren't lovely in other respects, but I don't see how anything you wrote discounts her as an ENFP.

she is simply not a very deep person. she says this all the time. its fairly evident.

this doesnt make her an S

but it makes it very hard for me to see her as an N.

 

[Laurie]

Ow, Jeno, srsly. You are on the "enfp/entp can't get along" train too?

 

[jenocyde]

Ow, Jeno, srsly. You are on the "enfp/entp can't get along" train too?

I don't get how you got that out of what I wrote.

Pointing out less than desirable traits in any type doesn't mean I can't get along with someone. No one is perfect.

she is simply not a very deep person. she says this all the time. its fairly evident.

this doesnt make her an S

but it makes it very hard for me to see her as an N.

You didn't address what I wrote.

 

[uumlau]

I agree that it is best for one to type oneself. It's a journey to self-understanding, after all.

That said, however, it is not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of the thread is to generate possible alternatives to the tested type or to show how the tested type does conform to the reality.

I would suspect ESFJ more if she makes plans and follows through, is sensitive to your messes, etc. ENFP isn't ruled out, mostly because there is a lot of information loss w/r to your reporting your observations, and for the points Oro made, where your specific points don't contradict the ENFP type. Where I'd start really thinking "more J" and especially "SJ" is if she takes notes, uses an organizer, tends to fill her schedule up, and so on. ESFP would still be fairly similar to ENFP, but instead of getting distracted by a bright and shiny idea, she gets distracted by bright and shiny "things."

Sadly, though, there really isn't enough information for us to be certain of her type.

As for a "vibe" when I meet someone of the same type (INTJ), I only sort of get that. Really, I'm not looking for it. In fact, we're both so shielded it's hard to read type, initially. I get vibes from other types, but I use those as building blocks to find a specific type.

 

[Laurie]

I don't get how you got that out of what I wrote.

Typical ENFP's "ignores anything serious, deep, or irrelevant to the current moment. " ?

Pointing out less than desirable traits in any type doesn't mean I can't get along with someone. No one is perfect.

Don't make the NF cwy.

 

[jenocyde]

Typical ENFP's "ignores anything serious, deep, or irrelevant to the current moment. " ?

Well, it's the truth - it kinda just happened now, didn't it?

Don't make the NF cwy.

Not my intention and definitely not my pleasure. I love my Ne-crazed brothers and sisters!!

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

ENFP = Marijuana
ESFP = Cocaine or meth

I agree. She sounds sorta esfj to me. If she led with Fe, she'd be very into people, but Si would make her more into tradition and a stable environment.

 

[Litvyak]

Well, it's the truth

No, not really.

 

[gigi_xo]

I agree that it is best for one to type oneself. It's a journey to self-understanding, after all.

That said, however, it is not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of the thread is to generate possible alternatives to the tested type or to show how the tested type does conform to the reality.

I would suspect ESFJ more if she makes plans and follows through, is sensitive to your messes, etc. ENFP isn't ruled out, mostly because there is a lot of information loss w/r to your reporting your observations, and for the points Oro made, where your specific points don't contradict the ENFP type. Where I'd start really thinking "more J" and especially "SJ" is if she takes notes, uses an organizer, tends to fill her schedule up, and so on. ESFP would still be fairly similar to ENFP, but instead of getting distracted by a bright and shiny idea, she gets distracted by bright and shiny "things."

Sadly, though, there really isn't enough information for us to be certain of her type.

As for a "vibe" when I meet someone of the same type (INTJ), I only sort of get that. Really, I'm not looking for it. In fact, we're both so shielded it's hard to read type, initially. I get vibes from other types, but I use those as building blocks to find a specific type.

she had her schedule/calender on her wall filled up all year.

this personally made me anxious. too much organization for me

I don't know if ideas distract her at all, she doesnt really discuss them lol

but bright shiny things can momentarily

 

[gigi_xo]

and as an ENFP I thrive off or irrelevent things to the moment

and never ignore ANYTHING serious or deep.

especially not with friends


and deep conversations are my favoriteeee.

why do you say my type does this?

 

[gigi_xo]

I agree. She sounds sorta esfj to me. If she led with Fe, she'd be very into people, but Si would make her more into tradition and a stable environment.

yes, this was my actually guess for her

the description seemed to fit her well

she loves people, but she loves tradition and stability.

she also cares more about image and who she hangs out with than the people themselves I feel.

 

[uumlau]

she had her schedule/calender on her wall filled up all year.

this personally made me anxious. too much organization for me

I don't know if ideas distract her at all, she doesnt really discuss them lol

but bright shiny things can momentarily

Yeah, that would suggest ExFJ to me, and most likely ESFJ, w/r to having the calendar physically present. (S/N typing can be tricky, though, so unless a typical S vs N argument manifests, I wouldn't draw a more definite conclusion on S or N.)

 

[gromit]

It just sort of sounds like you are observing things that you don't like about her and then attempting in every way possible to place her in another category from yourself.

 

[uumlau]

It just sort of sounds like you are observing things that you don't like about her and then attempting in every way possible to place her in another category from yourself.

I think gigi is just trying to resolve the cognitive dissonance. I'd have the same cognitive dissonance if I met an INTJ that sang about butterflies and rainbows and wanted to watch "The Little Mermaid" again.

Just sayin'.

 

[gigi_xo]

It just sort of sounds like you are observing things that you don't like about her and then attempting in every way possible to place her in another category from yourself.

probably


but I dont like these things bc they DO place her in another catagory.

goddammit, I dont want her on my team.