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    ENTPs have the same extroverted perceiving and judging function as ESFJs.

    The groupings don't have much order to them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    No offense, but this is the same grouping as Ygolo's.

    ENTPs have nothing in common with ESFJs or ESFPs. If you insist they are part of the same group, then you are denying reality.
    You're such a wonderful, helpful person. It's a shame no one listens to you.

    ps what is a ygolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    You're such a wonderful, helpful person. It's a shame no one listens to you.

    ps what is a ygolo
    OK, why don't you tell me what does ESFJs have in common with ENTPs, other than the fact that we share the same function in reverse order?
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    I both direct and inform.
    I use both concrete and abstract communication.
    I both initiate and respond.

    All of the above is situational for me. I can't imagine being so one-sided like an unbalanced seesaw crashing to the ground.

    The only thing that stands out for me in a big way, is being pragmatic rather than affiliative.
    My instinct is to act independently.

    It's a shame people don't realize how much these false dichotomies actually encourage unhealthy behavior and unsuccessful results in the real world.
    You have to be flexible in dealing with people in business, for example, lest you end up delivering pizza for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    OK, why don't you tell me what does ESFJs have in common with ENTPs, other than the fact that we share the same function in reverse order?
    You haven't even read the OP, have you?

    I both direct and inform.
    I use both concrete and abstract communication.
    I both initiate and respond.

    All of the above is situational for me. I can't imagine being so one-sided like an unbalanced seesaw crashing to the ground.
    Not everyone is, these systems help determine preference, not ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    these systems help determine preference, not ability.


    I prefer to both direct and inform.
    I prefer to use both concrete and abstract communication.
    I prefer to both initiate and respond.


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    I would be ESFP, since I got over being a responder. Not being the initiator makes you miss a lot when it comes to people. You won't make new friends very easily if you don't approach people. I approach things directly usually.

    And I'm basically like Jaguar, most of this is situational. But having known about these interaction styles for a while, I'm pretty clearly behind the scenes just because of the description, and by nature I'm a responder and informer.

    I think it's good to have a balance between both, as per usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I prefer to both direct and inform.
    I prefer to use both concrete and abstract communication.
    I prefer to both initiate and respond.


    Get it? Got it? Good.
    I dunno, you seem to prefer directing over informing form where I'm standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    I dunno, you seem to prefer directing over informing form where I'm standing.

    Just 2 more to go and you'll know your type! YAY
    "The light turned green, mother-fucker," is informing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    "The light turned green, mother-fucker," is informing.
    Well to be fair, the communication stlyes are all about how you define roles when speaking, so that could just as easily be directive.

    Unless you're using "mother-fucker" as a casual term for "friend" or something, in which case you have strange friends.
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