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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Your internal values/beliefs/preferences, sure no one can tell you what those are. But your preferences that are manifested externally, that's another story entirely. You don't get an objective view of yourself from the outside the way many of the people with which you interact do.

    Here's a long-winded example (no pun intended):
    Let's say that you are the kind of person that is easily influenced by your environment and peers. You happen to make friends with a lot of people who are into skydiving (not because they are into skydiving; it's just happenstance), so you become of the opinion that skydiving is cool and hip and in order for one to be "cool", one must enjoy skydiving. You are going to tell yourself that you like skydiving, and you will probably force yourself to do it, since all your friends do it too; it's your way of fitting in. So, in a test that asks "Do you like skydiving?", you'd probably convince yourself that the answer is yes, and fill in the bubble accordingly. However, your friends see that it scares the living daylight out of you everytime you are standing in the doorway of that plane, and when you are outside of this social context, you never take it upon yourself to pursue your "hobby." You really don't enjoy skydiving; you've just managed to convince yourself of this due to peer-pressure related circumstances. Your skydiving friends and your other friends outside of the SP skydiving circle realize this because they view your actions objectively; they see that you get the sweats everytime you are in the plane, and they see that you never actually initiate skydiving endeavors. Your other non-skydiving friends realize that if given the choice, you'd rather be doing something on the ground, and they've never heard you convincingly talk about the thrill you get from skydiving. Therefore, in this situation, I'm of the opinion (and you may argue with me on this) that your friends would be better suited to more accurately answer the sky-diving question on a test. Now, I know that these type tests don't typically ask "Do you enjoy skydiving?", but they do ask many other tangible, external, behavioral questions that point to certain internal preferences, and many people will answer wrongly on these tests because they have essentially convinced themselves of a lie. In this instance, admitting that you enjoy skydiving points to a strong Se function, but really it's a manifestation of wanting to have a sense of social cohesion, or Fe.

    Now, I know that you are reportedly an Ne-dom guy, so you don't really understand what it's like to be under the influence of social pressures. You value your own personal, unique forms of expression, and fitting in is not of high importance to you, so you are probably a bit more capable of being honest with yourself. However, not all people are of this philosophy, and many will indeed answer inaccurately in self-report because they don't have this sense of self-validation.

    I actually read about a psychological study that is highly related to this topic. I'll see if I can find a link to it.
    I agree with this. I've seen a few people be very convinced they are certain types when it is obviously not the case. A lot of it is relative also. A person doesn't compare themselves to INTP when they are asked if they are logical, or compare to ESFJ when asked are they social. They might think things like "I feel like I make logical sense" or "I like talking to people and going to parties".

    I agree on the Ne dom part also, and can be somewhat arrogant when it comes to trusting my perceptions (it's our strong point, so we have to get some right to). Sometimes it does feel like I see their thinking styles and get their underlying traits better than them. But I also miss a lot of what the person is. I've tried filling out a test for someone else before and it isn't that easy. There are very few people we know well enough to see all their motivations and dreams. People are always evolving and changing, and they don't let it all out. I think the best method I've found is cooperatively taking the test, so you can clarify points and make sure the questions are interpreted correctly. It's how I originally confirmed my type. I could bounce any parts I thought were ambiguous off the other person (who happened to be INFJ, so complemented my weak points in judgement nicely).
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    My husband took it for me twice and got ESFJ and ENFJ for my type.
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    Yeah, I think in some cases, a close friend or family member who is well-versed in MBTI could type you more accurately if you are knowledgeable of MBTI. Not necessarily by taking a test for you though... The test questions are worded so that a person would have to guess your thoughts based on behavior.

    I have a friend who I think is ENFJ but tests something else (usually INFP). Beyond the test, he doesn't know anything about MBTI. I think he's a Fe-dom who has romantic notions about introverts, and he's borderline on J/P questions. People can test the type they are attracted to or how they'd like to be....
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