Qre:us
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I have her pegged as ESxx.
I tried to go by functional preference, and didn't get much head-way.
She does not show:
- a lot of Ne; unfiltered Ne she, in rare cases, finds amusing, and when she respects it is when it's Ne+Ti [makes sense], but, overall, she gets quite exasperated by it as evidenced by her reaction to seeing me (ENTP) and her sister (ENFP) converse about random shyte in 'weird' ways. She finds it innocent and charming, but, with a tinge of 'ohhh boyyy, here we go again!'
- a lot of Te, but she reveres this a lot in others.
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I tried to go by temperament and I am not confident in distinctly placing her in either SP or SJ.
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* More risk-taker than myself.
* Has a good background in customer service, even though she doesn't really want to be in this field [like it that much], but, in general, she has a lot of random friends and acquiantances.
* Values a lot of little 'symbolism'/traditional rituals, finds understanding and romanticism in certain 'ways of things' and why/how they should be followed, but, her own evaluation of whether it's "universally" a right or wrong mindset will trump tradition, always.
- she is very quick to get worked up about stuff, and will spew it out right then and there. To her, it relieves anxiety and frustration of the thought mulling over and over, so she'd rather deal with it in the moment. She's been trying to have more on a handle on her trigger-reaction. Although, IMO, she does give a few strikes before the person is OUT, such that, just like me, when they don't heed the strikes, she will lash out verbally at them.
- has a lot of confusion/conflict with how her sister perceives the world (ENFP), finds her sister often time illogical (which, I'd agree, she is, but it's easier for me to see her sister's way of thinking/justification, while she will dismiss it as....'but that's just stupid!'). She often feels she's right in such judgements against her sister cuz she's like a parent (older sis) to her. Her sister feels she criticizes her too much and picks on little things.
- she, to my confusion at times, often ascribes what a person "morally" should to, and finds it frustrating when they don't. When I tell her that, a person SHOULD do that, but doesn't mean that they will, she can't understand how that is any relevant counter. (Fe?)
- when she recalls something, she goes into a LOT of details and doesn't skip anything. Sometimes, she gets very stuck on recalling something as true, when, I can remember it not happening as she recalls....she gets 'tricked' by Si, sometimes???
- She is def. an in-the-moment type of person. She lives to feel a moment. I see very clearn Se preference in her.
- We both arrive at the same conclusion about what to do/a person's action, but, it seems I give 'words' to why a to b to c, to which she responds, "YES! EXACTLY. I couldn't exactly describe why but yes, THAT is why!" I find a lot more subtle things that she misses to bring in as evidence, while she uses an in-the-moment example. I think it's our shared respect for the process of Ti.
- She is in touch with how she feels/wants, and is vocal about that not being disrespected.
- She can read too much into something/someone, and jump to conclusions about them, sometimes almost extremes. Like, "They're evil." When, after another interaction with them, she will have changed her mind on them. She knows that I don't like how she has 'all these judgements'.
- She is very street-smart, knows what info to keep and give out and when.
- Sometimes, people find her over-friendly and may mistake her friendliness as something 'more'. E.g., she feels that if a person has nice eyes, they should know, doesn't matter if it's a grandma, a child or a dude. But, a dude will think it's cuz she's flirting, and she's not.
- in large groups, she's not very talkative as she is 1 on 1.
- she doesn't like being alone, if there's long periods of alone-time, she's finding people to call to make the time go by.
- she has tested/challenged A LOT of the traditions of what being female in her culture is expected to be.
- she says that she may seem more harsh to those closest to her, because what they do/think matters to her personal sphere, hence, why she is way nicer to strangers than to friends.
- in arguments, she's not as stubborn as me. She will be the first to reach out to sort it out, while I can keep the 'fuck that shit' distance for a while if she didn't intervene and keep wanting to sort it out.
- I think her ISFJ best friend had a lot of influence of SJ temperament on her, they were really close [spent a lot of time together for 6 years], and she acknowledges the shaping of herself through this friend and how a lot of the ways she thinks/interprets she wouldn't have unless she had that kind of exposure to said ISFJ friend. They had an older-sis/younger sis relation where the ISFJ wanted someone to nurture to the max. and my best friend, she perceived to, 'naively need' that nurturing. Which my ESxx friend took, she was taken care of a lot by ISFJ friend, and of recent [after the ISFJ friend got married], she had to refocus on herself and her own identity beyond the duo. Most obviously thing taken from this influential friendship is her judgements she has, and she's been trying to be less harsh in those ways. But, she's also learned how to 'read' people through this ISFJ.
- she also has known a lot of interesting and shady characters, so her 'jumping to the worst/shadiest conclusions' may have roots in that.
I tried to go by functional preference, and didn't get much head-way.
She does not show:
- a lot of Ne; unfiltered Ne she, in rare cases, finds amusing, and when she respects it is when it's Ne+Ti [makes sense], but, overall, she gets quite exasperated by it as evidenced by her reaction to seeing me (ENTP) and her sister (ENFP) converse about random shyte in 'weird' ways. She finds it innocent and charming, but, with a tinge of 'ohhh boyyy, here we go again!'
- a lot of Te, but she reveres this a lot in others.
****
I tried to go by temperament and I am not confident in distinctly placing her in either SP or SJ.
****
* More risk-taker than myself.
* Has a good background in customer service, even though she doesn't really want to be in this field [like it that much], but, in general, she has a lot of random friends and acquiantances.
* Values a lot of little 'symbolism'/traditional rituals, finds understanding and romanticism in certain 'ways of things' and why/how they should be followed, but, her own evaluation of whether it's "universally" a right or wrong mindset will trump tradition, always.
- she is very quick to get worked up about stuff, and will spew it out right then and there. To her, it relieves anxiety and frustration of the thought mulling over and over, so she'd rather deal with it in the moment. She's been trying to have more on a handle on her trigger-reaction. Although, IMO, she does give a few strikes before the person is OUT, such that, just like me, when they don't heed the strikes, she will lash out verbally at them.
- has a lot of confusion/conflict with how her sister perceives the world (ENFP), finds her sister often time illogical (which, I'd agree, she is, but it's easier for me to see her sister's way of thinking/justification, while she will dismiss it as....'but that's just stupid!'). She often feels she's right in such judgements against her sister cuz she's like a parent (older sis) to her. Her sister feels she criticizes her too much and picks on little things.
- she, to my confusion at times, often ascribes what a person "morally" should to, and finds it frustrating when they don't. When I tell her that, a person SHOULD do that, but doesn't mean that they will, she can't understand how that is any relevant counter. (Fe?)
- when she recalls something, she goes into a LOT of details and doesn't skip anything. Sometimes, she gets very stuck on recalling something as true, when, I can remember it not happening as she recalls....she gets 'tricked' by Si, sometimes???
- She is def. an in-the-moment type of person. She lives to feel a moment. I see very clearn Se preference in her.
- We both arrive at the same conclusion about what to do/a person's action, but, it seems I give 'words' to why a to b to c, to which she responds, "YES! EXACTLY. I couldn't exactly describe why but yes, THAT is why!" I find a lot more subtle things that she misses to bring in as evidence, while she uses an in-the-moment example. I think it's our shared respect for the process of Ti.
- She is in touch with how she feels/wants, and is vocal about that not being disrespected.
- She can read too much into something/someone, and jump to conclusions about them, sometimes almost extremes. Like, "They're evil." When, after another interaction with them, she will have changed her mind on them. She knows that I don't like how she has 'all these judgements'.
- She is very street-smart, knows what info to keep and give out and when.
- Sometimes, people find her over-friendly and may mistake her friendliness as something 'more'. E.g., she feels that if a person has nice eyes, they should know, doesn't matter if it's a grandma, a child or a dude. But, a dude will think it's cuz she's flirting, and she's not.
- in large groups, she's not very talkative as she is 1 on 1.
- she doesn't like being alone, if there's long periods of alone-time, she's finding people to call to make the time go by.
- she has tested/challenged A LOT of the traditions of what being female in her culture is expected to be.
- she says that she may seem more harsh to those closest to her, because what they do/think matters to her personal sphere, hence, why she is way nicer to strangers than to friends.
- in arguments, she's not as stubborn as me. She will be the first to reach out to sort it out, while I can keep the 'fuck that shit' distance for a while if she didn't intervene and keep wanting to sort it out.
- I think her ISFJ best friend had a lot of influence of SJ temperament on her, they were really close [spent a lot of time together for 6 years], and she acknowledges the shaping of herself through this friend and how a lot of the ways she thinks/interprets she wouldn't have unless she had that kind of exposure to said ISFJ friend. They had an older-sis/younger sis relation where the ISFJ wanted someone to nurture to the max. and my best friend, she perceived to, 'naively need' that nurturing. Which my ESxx friend took, she was taken care of a lot by ISFJ friend, and of recent [after the ISFJ friend got married], she had to refocus on herself and her own identity beyond the duo. Most obviously thing taken from this influential friendship is her judgements she has, and she's been trying to be less harsh in those ways. But, she's also learned how to 'read' people through this ISFJ.
- she also has known a lot of interesting and shady characters, so her 'jumping to the worst/shadiest conclusions' may have roots in that.