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Am I an INTP, INTJ, or ENTP?

Tyrant

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LOL, most tests use the four dichotomies to determine your type, which is extremely unreliable. The cognitive processes test is next to worthless.

You're jumping from INFJ to INTP, ENTP to INTJ and ENTJ. You've even said you can't differentiate Ne and Ni, so why should I take your word you're one of those five types?

Your OP really doesn't help, either, because you're also using the four dichotomies as a guide. If you want to know you're true type, you must write a description of yourself without using such a poor method. Just talk about people or tasks, your interests and hobbies and your interpretation of such. Life priorities, how you think, how you are communication-wise, just write a good few paragraphs about yourself.
 

chickpea

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Because I'm not a sensor, none of the sensor descriptions describe me at all in any way, while INTP, INTJ, ENTP, and ENTJ describe me extremely well. All of the tests I've taken had N as the highest letter, almost always 100% or in that area. Why do you continue to insist I am? Is there any proof at all in what I've written that I am a sensor? No, there isn't so shut the fuck up.

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Triglav

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Well, to start, I don't like most people and people who have wronged me in some way will usually pay for it in some way. If I overhear someone talking bad things about me, I'm not the person to ignore it, talk about it with him over a cup of cofee, or punch him in the face, I'd go into his computer and unsocket his CPU so he stumbles about like an idiot trying to find what's wrong. I'm not an asshole to babies or old people because they haven't done anything wrong.

I think I'm much smarter than the average person, and can usually see right through most people and know what they are feeling or thinking at any given time. However, that's pretty much the only way I can understand others because I hate social sutiations like parties and would rather spend the time sleeping or reading. Social norms are totally bizzare to me, and I'm very much like Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm and will debate why something is illogical to anyone who says it is.

I love debating anything, but I don't have a political opinion any more. Whenever I read conflicting sides of a story, event, or system I have extreme cognitive discourse that interferes with sleep and daily life. I would be thinking about wether or not capitalism or socialism is the right thing instead of working and I would get restless trying to sleep under that influence.

I don't really know what else to say, tell me what to say and I'll tell you those things. If you're interested in what my opinions are towards x or y, tell me that and I will tell you.
 

Tyrant

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I think I'm much smarter than the average person, and can usually see right through most people and know what they are feeling or thinking at any given time.

What exactly do you mean by this? How do you "see" right through them?

When you're in a group, what are your concerns? What is your typical group behavior? Least favorite group behavior?
 

Triglav

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I can usually know if they're nervous or if they're uncomfortable, but not much else than that. When I'm in a group, it depends on what the group is. If it's a bunch of lame, generic, uninteresting people I will probably think to myself or leave the table. If I'm with interesting people I will listen intently and probably say some things
 

Triglav

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Ni’s constantly wonder and guess in their head - they do this so often that they often don’t even realize that they are doing it. It more or less becomes a part of them. Ni’s easily get lost in the mind and are thus very introspective, and often pull out ingenious ideas and insights. They view life more globally than any other type, striving to never let themselves forget about the big picture. Ni’s constantly shift their perspectives, and view and understand things from different angles and in different ways.

Under extreme stress Ni’s become paranoid and overly withdrawn. Their inferior function jumps them, and they become overly interested in details and obsessed with physical pleasure. They become slaves to childlike impulses, sometimes ruining themselves with their decisions in the process.

Ni’s confidently trust their intuitions, insights, ideas, and inspirations - often no matter what others say. Their thoughts become part of who they are. They don’t need to rely on others, and they enjoy time to themselves. Their strong independence is a good thing, but they also have a natural suspicion about others and need to learn to trust them (INTJ’s in particular).

Ni’s prefer to think things through as completely as possible and dislike it when others come to quick, simplistic conclusions. Ni’s are known to get frustrated with others. INTJ’s are more likely to show this than INFJs, but nonetheless it is there, and often strongly felt. Ni’s need to remind themselves that they are extremely rare and should be proud that they see things that others don’t. Nonetheless one can certainly understand their grievance with what sometimes seems like the shallow, ignorant ways of the world.

Ni’s continually think about the future, what it may hold, and how what they are currently doing with their life affects it. Ni’s are too often hypersensitive to contingencies, possibilities and implications. To the Ni, anything is possible and could happen. Some Ni’s focus too much on those “coulds” and become worrywarts. Ni’s need to develop their auxiliary function to keep them in touch with the reality of the external world. When Ni’s don’t use their other functions, their unique visions turn to far-fetched crackpot theories, and their confidence turns to downright obstinance.

Another source of frustration for Ni’s is their difficulty articulating their complex views and intuitions. However, when they are able to do this, the result is typically both impressive and impactful.
This analysis of Ni describes me better than any INTP or ENTP or any other individual type description that I have ever read. Is it possible for, say, an INTP to have Ni as their dominant function? Is MBTI based around a mathematical algorithm or is it more flexible.
 

Triglav

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Something like this though

Introverted iNtuiting: involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!”- The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. - Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions. - Future thinking

Doesn't describe me very well at all and the Ne description

Extraverted iNtuiting: involves noticing hidden meanings and interpreting them, often entertaining a wealth of possible interpretations from just one idea or interpreting what someone’s behavior really means. - It also involves seeing things “as if,” with various possible representations of reality. Using this process, we can juggle many different ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and meanings in our mind at once with the possibility that they are all true. - This is like weaving themes and threads together. We don’t know the weave until a thought thread appears or is drawn out in the interaction of thoughts, often brought in from other contexts. Thus a strategy or concept often emerges from the here-and-now interactions, not appearing as a whole beforehand. Using this process we can really appreciate brainstorming and trust what emerges, enjoying imaginative play with scenarios and combining possibilities, using a kind of cross-contextual thinking. Extraverted iNtuiting also can involve catalyzing people and extemporaneously shaping situations, spreading an atmosphere of change through emergent leadership. - Current thinking

Describes me better except for the current thinking part. I'm always planning on what I'm going to do next in my head. I don't write it down and I don't have any spreadsheets or pitchbooks to remind myself to buy eggs or something but nevertheless I plan things ahead and can see why something happened very easily.
 

Tyrant

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I can usually know if they're nervous or if they're uncomfortable, but not much else than that.

How do you determine this?

And you didn't really answer my questions properly.

And just talk about people or tasks, your interests and hobbies and your interpretation of such. Life priorities, how you think, how you are communication-wise - I really got none of that from you.
 

Triglav

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I don't know how, I just know by their facial expression and body language what they're thinking or what their emotions are. I'm not a very emotional person though. What I mean is when someone makes a joke about someone else, I can tell if the person who is being joked about is actually insulted or if he isn't. I can tell when someone is faking an emotion. I can tell when someome is lying very very easily. I hate pretentious people and can usually notice bullshit from miles away. It's hard to explain, but there it is.
 

Triglav

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My interests are playing video games, not really FPSs but more tycoon and city building games. For instance, I play Eve Online but I don't like the military aspects of the game and instead I produce and manipulate the market and make a lot of money off of what I create, be it ammo, ships, etc. I like taking long walks, I like skyscrapers and like art deco. I like debating and reading as well. I'm interested in politics, philosophy, sociology, psychology, and the humanities as well as physics, biology, mathematics, economics, finance, and pretty much everything.

My life priorities are to learn as much as I can and live a long, healthy life until I die. Ultimately, I understand that everything, from the largest skyscrapers to the smallest nanochip will all cease to exist in a few trillion years so there really isn't much point in anything. I'm a nihilist, and I base my life philosophy on that, but I don't go out killing people or anything, I just realize everything is going to burn so what matters in the long run except enriching yourself and your own mind.

I have wierd ways of thinking that I don't know how to explain. I sometimes do a thing where I think of something, then I think of the fact that I thought of that, and then I keep "thinking" about what I just thought until I realize I've been doing it for a while, and then I "think" that, and there isn't any limits to this because the mind doesn't really have any limitations, and then when I "think" about that, it goes even depeer and deeper. I can see how things are interconnected and how one thing affects another thing and why things happen. I'm very good at analyzing an event, system, or object, but I don't usually find solace unless there's a meaning behind it. If the something of something is 4.34543, I don't really care unless that number has some greater significance behind it.

I also might have Aspergers syndrome but I'm not sure, I usually score high on those tests but I have a sense of humor that most people wouldn't understand and I'm not very detail-oriented so I don't know.
 

Triglav

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I also can really easily feel the "mood" of a place or situation. Sometimes when I see video footage of Latin America, for instance, I have this strange feeling and an image in my head of a Latin American street and I feel a very peculiar emotiont that I can't describe. Whenever I think about America in the 1980's, with cramped hotel rooms and gray suits and things like that I also get that feeling, although it's different every location and place. I grew up in the Soviet Union so it's not nostalgia because I've never experienced it. I don't know how to describe it.

Sometimes I'm standing on the street and I see a person and that person triggers something inside me that gets this rush of strange, inexplicable emotions that I can't describe.
 

Triglav

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I don't really know what I am communication wise, I'm fairly introverted around strangers, openly hostile around people who I don't like, and very friendly around friends. If I was forced to go to a party, I would probably sit in the back and discuss politics or something with another NT. My sense of humor is very ironic and subtle and most people wouldn't understand it at all. I hate 4chan "lulz" humor and I also hate puns. Curb Your Enthusiasm and The Office is the only mainstream shows that show my sense of humor I guess. My least favorite group behavior is probably when somebody starts talking about something nobody cares about loudly and obnoxiously. I'll probably be the first person, even in a room full of extroverts, to tell him or her to shut the fuck up and get out.
 

Two Point Two

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Ok, here's a question: when confronted with a theoretical problem - i.e. not a problem in day-to-day life, but, say, an argument in philosophy that you don't like the conclusion of - what do you do?

Describe your thought processes. Don't think about them in terms of cognitive functions, just describe what it's like in your head as you deal with that kind of problem.
 
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