ISFJ/ESFJ?

[NewEra]

"Damn it, I've told you once, I've told you a million times, you're eNFp!!!" has 8 votes, the other choices have 2 votes combined.

 

[Little Linguist]

Thanks. But you're supposed to total the scores for each temperament, leaving off the 1's and 2's (only 3-5 count).
I actually started to do it for you, but just didn't have time. (Especially with all the .5's)

Okay, I'll calculate it.

Choleric: 51
Phlegmatic: 39
Melancholy: 62
Sanguine: 55
Supine: 57.5

 

[Little Linguist]

Okay, I'll calculate it.

Choleric: 51
Phlegmatic: 39
Melancholy: 62
Sanguine: 55
Supine: 57.5

But again, that is just my spontaneous feeling...

 

[Snow Turtle]

Have you tried using interaction styles?
Those are quite handy. ENFJs and ENFPs are in quite a different area to ISFJs.

 

[Little Linguist]

Have you tried using interaction styles?
Those are quite handy. ENFJs and ENFPs are in quite a different area to ISFJs.

Interaction styles? Ah I've found it - okay I'll let you know.

 

[Saslou]

Lol. If you was an ESFJ, you would of pissed and moaned at first about how you are so not like an ESFJ then just got on with it and worried about the next problem you had to deal with.

 

[Little Linguist]

Chart-the-Course™ & In-Charge™
Directive Communications - Give structure, direct (NO)

Behind-the-Scenes™ & Get-Things-Going™
Informing Communications - Evoke, draw forth, seek input (YES)

In-Charge™ & Get-Things-Going™
Initating Roles- External World, reach out, interact (YES)

Chart-the-Course™ & Behind-the-Scenses
Responding Roles- Internal world, reflect, slow pace (NOT REALLY)

In-Charge™ & Behind-the-Scenes™
Control - Focus on control over the outcome (SOMETIMES)

Chart-the-Course™ & Get-Things-Going™ have in common
Movement - Focus on movement toward the goal (YES)

Hmm, for all the yes answers, Get-Things-Going seems to be the common factor, with some mixed results. Let's check out the individual descriptions now.

 

[Little Linguist]

Lol. If you was an ESFJ, you would of pissed and moaned at first about how you are so not like an ESFJ then just got on with it and worried about the next problem you had to deal with.

Hahaha, well I'm searching for truth ~ I'm on a quest to find myself. I find that works better by getting lots of sources, lots of input and feedback (probably more objective than my own analysis) and placing all the bits into a mosaic and making a picture (that can be changed as necessary when new data comes in).

It's the damn J/P dichotomy. As a 50% J, you long to KNOW, GET IT and say Whewwwww that's done - I FINALLY KNOW WHO I AM.

As a 50% P you say, damn, you never know who you really are, and you need to keep testing and trying and doing this and that to find out just a little bit MORE because your info is never complete.

I'm so silly!

 

[Snow Turtle]

We'll be waiting for the results.
Curious, don't you trust your own function analysis displayed there?

 

[Little Linguist]

Chart-the-Course™

The theme is having a course of action to follow. YES

People of this stylefocus on knowing what to do and keeping themselves, the group, or the project on track. YES, but usually JUST me.

They prefer to enter a situation having an idea of what is to happen. YES, a general idea is good.

They identify a process to accomplish a goal and have a somewhat contained tension as they work to create and monitor a plan. YES

The aim is not the plan itself, but to use it as a guide to move things along toward the goal. Well, yes, I suppose.

Their informed and deliberate decisions are based on analyzing, outlining, conceptualizing or foreseeing what needs to be done. Oh, that might not be so accurate - I have issues making decisions sometimes.

Behind-the-Scenes™

The theme is getting the best result possible. YES

People of this style focus on understanding and working with the process to create a positive outcome. YES

They see value in many contributions and consult outside inputs to make an informed decision. DEFINITELY

They aim to integrate various information sources and accommodate differing points of view. YES

They approach others with a quiet, calm style that may not show their strong convictions. UM, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Producing, sustaining, defining, and clarifying are all ways they support a group's process. Well, not reallyyyy.

They typically have more patience than most with the time it takes to gain support through consensus for a project or to refine the result. HELLZ NO! I`m as impatient as a girl waiting to stop sitting on an ant hill filled with angry fire ants.

In-Charge™

The theme is getting things accomplished through people. YES

People of this style are focused on results, often taking action quickly. UM, Not always, no. Yes with teaching

They often have a driving energy with an intention to lead a group to the goal. Um, not lead the group - go there myself. Unless teaching. Then yes

They make decisions quickly to keep themselves and others on task, on target, and on time. No, but I make decisions that WORK and still keep myself on task, target and time.

They hate wasting time and having to back track. YES

Mentoring, executing actions, supervising, and mobilizing resources are all ways they get things accomplished. YES with mentoring, supervising; no with executing and mobilizing.

They notice right away what is not working in a situation and become painfully aware of what needs to be fixed, healed, or corrected. SOMETIMES

Get-Things-Going™

The theme is persuading and involving others. YES involving; NO persuading

They thrive in facilitator or catalyst roles and aim to inspire others to move to action, facilitating the process. YES DEFINITELY

Their focus is on interaction, often with an expressive style. YES

They Get-Things-Going™ with upbeat energy, enthusiasm, or excitement, which can be contagious. YES DEFINITELY

Exploring options and possibilities, making preparations, discovering new ideas, and sharing insights are all ways they get people moving along. YES DEFINITELY

They want decisions to be participative and enthusiastic, with everyone involved and engaged. TOTALLY

Well, there you have it folks, looks like I'm a Get-Things-Going kind of gal with some moderate Take-Charge, Stick-to-it-iveness, and Charting Shit.

 

[Little Linguist]

We'll be waiting for the results.
Curious, don't you trust your own function analysis displayed there?

Nope . That's weird, isn't it? If I don't trust it, why is it there? I guess because it was so close and I like continually re-evaluating things once new input indicates a possible change/lack.

 

[Saslou]

I'm so silly!

Silly .. No. Even knowing what i am supposed to be and how i work. I still view myself as a huge puzzle and i don't know where to start to correct myself.
My psychologist is sooo NF and it was wicked talking to him the other day and i could see the cogs going round in this head when he was talking about rationalising perfectionism. My thought process doesn't allow me to go deep enough so i only superficially skim the surface to try and correct my errors in thinking. So messed up, but i love a challenge.

I hope you are able to find out what type you are.
I don't envy you.

 

[Little Linguist]

Silly .. No. Even knowing what i am supposed to be and how i work. I still view myself as a huge puzzle and i don't know where to start to correct myself.
My psychologist is sooo NF and it was wicked talking to him the other day and i could see the cogs going round in this head when he was talking about rationalising perfectionism. My thought process doesn't allow me to go deep enough so i only superficially skim the surface to try and correct my errors in thinking. So messed up, but i love a challenge.

I hope you are able to find out what type you are.
I don't envy you.

Thank you, and I wish you well on your self-discovery quest, too! It's not easy, but it's fascinating....and it never ends!

 

[Jeffster]

Thank you, and I wish you well on your self-discovery quest, too! It's not easy, but it's fascinating....and it never ends!

NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF NF

 

[Snow Turtle]

Nope . That's weird, isn't it? If I don't trust it, why is it there? I guess because it was so close and I like continually re-evaluating things once new input indicates a possible change/lack.

Heh. We're at least one step closer now. I think it's safe to say we can rule out ISFJ based on what's been given so far. I'm inclined to think EF but that's only due to the amount of zest that's been presented with all the posts. Based on limited information, it's difficult to imagine you as an IXFJ. I don't know for about IXFP, but it seems unlikely too - wouldn't rule out it completely. But since you never considered it in the first place we can rule that out. It's worth considering that the teaching environment will naturally push you towards becoming more structured.

That leaves ESFJ, ENFJ and ENFP.
Based on your understanding of functions, how would you describe your function order?

 

[Asterion]

INFJ, or XNFP, I don't think the other options are valid. I'm thinking INFJ because your behavior is similar to one I know, but it might just be NF vibes...

XNFP, it's hard to tell if you're introverted or extroverted without seeing how you act irl, but I'm sure that if you read enough information, and perhaps ask for a friends perspective here and there, you'll work it out. The thing is, you really need to have the ability to analyse yourself accurately, you can either get this by getting to know a million different people and analysing the difference between you and them, thus cementing your position in the world, or by reading as much MBTI/Socionics theory as you can and then take a good look at how you think. A good mixture of both methods will probably work best. Considering that you're most likely and NFP, you'll probably have trouble detaching yourself, but no trouble at all when you're analysing other people (presumably).

 

[Little Linguist]

0 = almost not at all, 1 = a little, 2 = some, 3 = quite often, 4 = often, 5 = almost always

Extraverted Sensing (2.6)

1. notice sensory cues (1.7)
feel pulled to particular sensory details (1)
automatically aware of where you and things are in physical space (1)
notice relevant facts in a sea of data before you (3)

2. enjoy impulsive action (2.7)
freely follow exciting physical impulses or instincts as they come up (3)
enjoy the thrill of action and physical experience in the present moment (3)
easily get in synch physically with people and things around you (2)

3. engage local context (2.0)
learn all the options and activities available in your local environment (2)
do a variety of hands-on activity most days going at an easy-going pace (3)
become totally absorbed as you move, touch and sense what's around (1)

4. seize immediate options (3.3)
quickly move to take actions to get some kind of immediate result (4)
instantly read the cues to see just how far you can go (3)
effortlessly vary actions to test the limits of what you can get away with (3)

5. sustain impactful style (3.3)
set up people's responses and finesse an effect that makes an impact (4)
impress by doing actions with uncanny skill to exceed limits and expectations (3)
pull off results and get action simply by making a presence (3)

Introverted Sensing (2.9)

1. notice detailed data (3)
collect detailed information (3)
recognize familiar subtle sensory elements (specific aromas, spellings, etc) (4)
feel pulled to halt something new to your experience (2)

2. trust common experience (3)
feel energized by participating in traditions or other customary activities (4)
follow the work, ideas and example of others who have come before you (3)
fulfill the same regular work or activity everyday at an even steady pace (2)

3. use careful comparisons (3)
recall with accurate detail how something was like before (3)
point out discrepancies from how things have always been compared to now (2)
notice if something before you matches the expected details (4)

4. create reliable foundation (3)
gather lots of information over time to confirm a set standard (3)
review the past to draw on the lessons of history, hindsight and experience (4)
compare data against a storehouse of what is known to find what's reliable (2)

5. sustain ageless custom (2.3)
patiently shepherd others to their roles as they navigate life events new to them (4)
sustain civilization and protect what's known and long-lasting (2)
support and maintain institutions even while what is reliable changes (1)

Extraverted Thinking (3.5)

1. notice sequential order (3.7)
notice when something is not functioning right (3)
usually know the time or which step you are at when doing a task (4)
follow a straight line of reasoning (4)

2. trust empirical thinking (3)
conform thinking to what is observed as measurable fact (2)
challenge someone’s thinking based on the logic clearly before you two (3)
lay out reasonable explanations for decisions or conclusions made (4)

3. use control method (3.3)
sequence actions and organize time for optimal efficiency (4)
control impulses and compartmentalize personal feelings and emotional reactions (2)
structure and organize data and ideas in an easy-to-follow format (4)

4. create objective procedures (4)
determine success by measurement or other objective method such as time taken (4)
chart and monitor contingency plans based on various consequences (4)
create a step-by-step procedure for people to complete a specific complex task (4)

5. sustain management strategy (3.3)
mobilize resources and supervise implementation of a multi-part plan (3)
establish a method for others to successfully attain goals and objectives (4)
organize and monitor people and things to work efficiently and productively (3)

Introverted Thinking: 3.0

1. notice logical category (3)
recognize a logical deduction (3)
correctly classify or fit data according to a definition or model (3)
notice logical inconsistencies in statements (3)

2. value critical thinking (3)
evaluate the likely accuracy of what's observed according to a model (3)
focus on finding just the exact right words to say something accurately (2)
analyze and critique to eliminate what doesn't fit with a principle (4)

3. use problem solving (3)
get energized analyzing challenging problems or technical puzzles (4)
tinker with a specific problem by trying a general approach or principle (3)
take apart something to figure out the principles on which it works (2)

4. refine universal model (3)
search for terms that accurately describe the essential characteristics of a framework or approach (2)
continuously refine and make ever-finer distinctions in definitions of principles (3)
detach to analyze factors from various angles and leverage points (4)

5. sustain ruling principles (3)
continually try many angles at once as you attack and engage a problem (4)
easily reference multiple frameworks at once while problem solving (3)
maintain consistency with a ruling principle over a long period of time (2)

 

[Little Linguist]

Extraverted Feeling: (3.5)

1. feel others need (4.7)
feel pulled to be responsible and take care of others’ feelings (5)
empathize with what someone says (how much it means to them) (4)
take on what someone is feeling or thinking as if you are them (4)

2. trust shared values (3.3)
prefer to self-disclose how you feel inside, your values, and issues you have (4)
recognize and adhere to shared values, feelings and social norms to get along (2)
feel affected by others' opinions of you, particularly those you admire and respect (4)

3. use social connection (3.3)
make people feel comfortable by engaging in hosting and care-taking (2)
give the deserved praise, warmth and respect to people's feelings and opinions (4)
reciprocate appreciation and honor the support others give you (4)

4. make intimate commitments (3.3)
merge and feel intimate oneness with others (3)
easily take on someone else's needs and values with a commitment as one's own (4)
guide social give-and-take to make people feel a certain way (3)

5. sustain communal spirit (3.3)
spread values as a worthy ethical role-model people respect and admire (3)
easily communicate personally to all persons in a group to feel together as one (3)
form intimate connections with many people to meet their needs (4)

Introverted Feeling (3.5)

1. feel gut reaction (3.7)
feel strongly that something is good or bad (5)
recognize what you want, what motivates you, or how you feel inside (4)
detect if someone’s behavior is authentic or phony (2)

2. trust personal beliefs (4)
follow absolute ideals, a specific belief system, or empowering identity (4)
loyally stick with your “group” (whatever that may be) (4)
stay always true to what you want for yourself or others (4)

3. make existential choice (4)
evaluate how a belief applies to you personally (5)
choose how you want to feel inside and change how you feel when needed (2)
continually examine if choices match inner values system and intent (5)

4. create inner harmony (2.3)
identify and defend what someone truly needs (2)
patiently abide people how you can for their unique happiness (2)
evaluate the most important stuff that is unsaid and unseen (3)

5. sustain human balance (3.3)
continually weigh the situational worth or importance of everything (4)
patiently keep balancing the core issues of peace and conflict in life's situations (2)
sustain a life of faith in a universal spirit of compassion and community (3)

Extraverted Intuition: (4.0)

1. notice hidden meaning (3.7)
perceive moments of synchronicity or convergence (4)
understand metaphors or analogies that explain ideas (4)
experience a strange "knowing" or magical moment (3)

2. enjoy imaginative links (4.7)
appreciate brainstorming and trust what emerges (4)
float various potential, unrelated ideas just to see where they might lead (5)
pluck an idea from the invisible flow of ideas drifting in the air (5)

3. engage creative flow (4.3)
follow potential possibilities as they emerge in the moment (4)
juggle many tangential thoughts and abstractions at once without focusing on one (5)
perceive endless potential meanings from threads of ideas (4)

4. make remarkable inferences (4.0)
weave into the current situation aspects of other, random contexts (4)
quickly entertain a wealth of possible interpretations when first meeting an idea (4)
enjoy imaginatively playing with scenarios and combining possibilities (4)

5. catalyze potential situations (3.3)
catalyze people and extemporaneously shape situations (4)
transform situations and others by way of indirect suggestions and redirection (3)
spread an atmosphere of change through emergent leadership (3)

Introverted Intuition: (2.8)

1. have sudden realization (3)
experience a premonition or foresee the unexpected (1)
feel pulled to the symbolic, archetypal or mysterious (4)
suddenly realize an "ah ha!" answer out of nowhere (4)

2. trust future change (3)
feel energized when dwelling on an image of future change or transformation (4)
stay focused on fulfilling a vision or dream of how things will be in the future (3)
feel certain that future changes will unfold in a foreseen way (2)

3. use magical guide (2.0)
rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten or transform (2)
gain a profound realization from a mystical state or catharsis (2)
layout how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs (2)

4. create innovative answers (2.7)
work out a complex concept or system of thinking about things in a new way (4)
deliberately pick a specific problem to sleep on and awaken with the full answer (2)
conceive of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal (2)

5. sustain transformed existence (3.3)
regularly use ideas and tools that transform how you understand existence (4)
transform yourself in a specific way by focusing on another version of yourself (3)
create transcendent experiences or solutions that transcend a problem (3)

 

[Little Linguist]

So it looks like my results are:

Ne (4.0) > Fi (3.5) = Te (3.5) = Fe (3.5) > Ti (3.0) > Si (2.9) > Ni (2.8) > Se (2.6)

Where:

0 = nearly not at all
1 = a little
2 = some
3 = quite frequently
4 = very often
5 = almost all the time

 

[Sniffles]

Where did you take those tests?