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TYPE ME!!! mbti enneagram &/or socionics

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1) Context:
a) What is your age range and general location (Country so that cultural values can be taken into account)? Do you have any impairments that may affect the way that you answer this questionnaire? Any religious or political beliefs (or anything else along those lines) that also might have an effect?

25 yr. old female. United States. Not religious but wouldn't call myself an atheist either. Right leaning libertarian.

b) Which types are you currently considering? Why are you considering them and why haven’t you decided on one?

Any & all Exxx types.

2) What do you deem as your purpose in life?

I'm not sure what my purpose in life is, but I guess I would say it's to experience as many things as possible and to hopefully make a positive impact on those around me.

3) Of the seven deadly sins, which one(s) do you relate to the most and the least and why?

Greed is the 7 deadly sin I relate to the most, I would say. I like expensive food, clothes, cars, etc. and dream about working my way up a company and/or being a successful entrepreneur. I'm a workaholic. I rarely take time off of work, and will happily work 60 hours a week if it means making and saving more money for myself.

I relate the least to envy. No matter how amazing other people's lives seem, everyone deals with life problems. I wouldn't want to trade my life for anybody else's. I see things I like in others or things they've acquired as something to strive for. I'm never mad for someone else's success. I'm more confident than that, & I don't have jealousy for others (or I quickly reason it out of my mind).

4) Analyzing your relationships with others, briefly describe:
a) The type of people you are drawn to

Friend wise I'm drawn to funny laid back people. Relationship wise I'm not looking for a relationship at all. In fact, if any of you know about attachment types, I think I'm a dissmisive avoidant.

b) The type of people who are drawn to you

It varies. Friend wise from high school, college, & work have been (in mbti terms) 2 ESFPs, 2 ENFPs, 2 INFJs, 2 INTJs, an ENFJ, & an ISFJ.

c) The type of people you are repulsed by

Self righteous people. People that take every little thing or joke personally. People that say they're "open minded" but dismiss anyone's thoughts/ideas/opinions that don't align with their own & don't care to reasses things based on new information. Selfish people. People that easily make value judgements about people, & likely in debates resort to calling you names like "heartless" instead of giving rational evidence/thoughts to debunk your stance. People that are easily offended or use that word a lot. People that can't see a grey area in thinking, everything's "good" or "bad". People that drown on & on about "morals" or being a "morally good person". Overly judgy people. The type of people that say "I would never do something like that". Hypocrites.

5)What are the traits in others that you admire but you cannot emulate yourself? Elaborate.

I admire people that are better at time management and following through with things than me. I have a ton of interesting ideas that never seem to go anywhere. I also seem to overestimate what I can get done in a specific amount of time.

6) Describe your relationship with the following:
a) Anger

Definitely have had some anger issues. Had turbulent personal relationships that would cause me to throw cell phones against the wall & break them. Things like that.

b) Shame

I try not to dwell on personal decisions I can't change anymore, so I'm not really shameful about them. I do feel shame when I feel some information has hurt my reputation or the way people view me, if they had a high opinion of me. In that case, I've just wanted to disappear in thin air, because I feel like I had been working hard to come off a certain way for nothing.

c) Fear

I try not to fear. I don't easily think of ways things could go wrong. Maybe once or twice a year, I get a bad vision of the future & catastrophize how the rest of my life will be.

d) Love/passion

Never been in love. I have love for people I know & for humanity as a whole.

Passion just sounds like lust to me.. mmm.. I don't think I want to elaborate on that. lol

e) Conflict

I've gotten fired for arguments with people before. I give people the same energy back as they give me. I don't stand for bullying or intimidation. If you get in my face & yell, I'll let you know you picked the wrong person. I need to get better at walking away but walking away feels like letting them win to me. Conflict with friends or family I let go right away & don't hold grudges. We could argue & grab dinner an hour later like nothing happened.

7) What are some of the themes that have played a prominent role in your life (ie. A struggle you’ve been unable to conquer, ect)?

Not being so reactionary without thinking of consequences. I don't easily learn from past situations.

8) Answer only one of the following:
a) [College aged and above] What is your area of work/study? Why did you choose this and would you change it? If so, what would be your ideal?

In college I took psychology, early childhood education, & communication classes. I couldn't decide what I wanted to major in and didn't finish my degree though. I've recently been thinking about taking classes again after being out of school for 3-4 yrs. If I do, I'm going to take online classes for an associate's degree in business management & marketing. After that, I hope to get my bachelor's in communication studies & business.

Most recent job has been working in a warehouse on the ship dock. I'm one of the people who train the new hires, too.

b)[Under college aged] What do you plan on studying/working as in the future? How did you go about deciding this? If this is not your ideal area of pursuit, what would be?

9) When meeting a new person, what do you tend to focus on?

Their general attitude & the vibe I get from them. I read people easily. Body language, tone of voice, temperament, & expressions.

10) How do you feel about humanity as a whole? What do you feel are some of the biggest problems the human race faces and why?

I feel like humanity is more bad/neutral than good. I think selfishness is the biggest problem the human race faces.

11) What are some of your hobbies and interests?

I have a lot of hobbies. Sports, physical activities, decorating, cooking, baking, reading about a ton of random things- astrology, different religions, psychology stuff, etc. I like politics (I'm a libertarian). I like the arts like going to see plays. Playing guitar. Playing basketball. Playing pool. Going to the gym. Hiking. Searching forums on a multitude of subjects. Watching YouTube videos, someone like Lilly Singh if I want something funny or if I want something more serious/political someone like Ben Shapiro or Dave Rubin.

13) How do you usually “hang out” with your friend(s)? When answering, think about what activities you tend to choose, whether you hang out with one person at once or many, whether or not you initiate the interaction.

What I like to do with friends depends on that friend(s). I'm usually down for any activity/social event, but I'm also cool with ordering a pizza & binge watching shows/movies & just talking one on one with someone or just going for a long walk/drive.

Using my ENFP friend as an example. We would go hiking often, went to a karaoke bar & went back & forth picking shot drinks & sang together, went to a yoga class together, got palm readings at a psychic, go to restaurants & try new foods together, parties with people from work, been to an escape room, & went to see a Disney movie at the movie theater.

14) What is more important, actions or words? Why?

I'm compelled to say actions, but obviously interesting conversations are important too. I think they have to go together.

15) Oh dear, you’ve been cursed by a witch! It’s ok though, you get a choice on which curse you will receive. Will you choose….
a) To never be able to experience the sensation of taste
b) To be immortal
c) To lose your memories
d) To be poor for the rest of your life
e) Or to never experience passion
Elaborate on why!

If I was cursed by a witch I would like to lose my memories. I find that dwelling on past events holds people back from the present/future a lot.

16) What do you hope to avoid being? If it helps, describe a person who embodies what you avoid/you as a villain, ect.

A disappointment to myself. A failure. Unhappy. Static & constantly in the same place.

17) How do you relate to obsession? Do you tend to "merge" with others or your interests? How do you feel about the idea of doing this?

I can be an all or nothing person. Obsession with people is unhealthy though & it places a person on a pedestal, so it's illogical to do & will lead to problems or at very least disappoint.

I think I can "merge" with other people. I find myself liking music, shows, etc. that people do around me. I'll get into new fashion styles because of people I'm around. Also, I'll start picking up people's phrases & the way they talk.

18) Organized or messy? Plans and blueprints or impulse and surprises? What are you preferences and tendencies?

I'm organized with my items usually. (Not OCD organized). However, I never use a planner or plan out my days off or anything like that. I don't mind a messy space at all, though.

I'm impulsive. I want to get better at future planning though. I admire it greatly in others. I would actually like to maintain a balance of both.

19) How do you subjectively view comfort and how do you create comfort in your life and surroundings?

Comfort to me is being able to be completely relaxed with someone. I'm a Taurus, so of course I love my fuzzy slippers, blankets, etc. & Don't forget comfort food, yum!

Comfort can be hindering if people get too comfortable in situations that hold them back from something better.

1-what makes you angry?

People irritating me, people being unnecessarily rude or smart to me, jealousy, people taking themselves or comments/jokes too seriously, people acting like I don't know how to do something that I'm good at, & people acting like they're better than anyone else.

2-what do you like/dislike most about people?

As someone who likes to psychoanalyze people, I love how complex yet simple people are. I like how different each person's lives and journey's can be, and learning all about them. I like how people can band together for causes. I like how funny people can be & laughing with them.

I dislike a lot of people's general attitudes. I dislike when people are overly serious & have no sense of humor. I dislike when people can't laugh at themselves. I dislike how quickly people can go from being friendly to being mean/angry/ignore you without explaining why or for the littlest things. I dislike how selfish people can be.

3-do you like animals? why?

Yes. They're fun to observe & interact with.

4-what do you like most about the favorite people in your life?

I like how I can say any & everything to them & the fun times we have together. I like when they find new activities etc. for us to do.

5-what do you like/dislike most about yourself?

I like a lot about myself. I think I'm smart & know about a lot of different topics, I think I'm funny, I'm ambitious, I'm good with people when I want to be, I'm good at teaching people different things, & I catch on to things easily.

I dislike how I overthink things so much. I can analyze any & everything to death. I dislike how impulsive & reactive I can be at times. I dislike my anger at times.

6-do you care about being fashionable? why/why not?

Yes. People including yourself have to look at your clothes all day long & appearances are probably the first thing people notice about you anyway, but that's not even why. It's just fun to buy things that you like & that look good. It's definitely cool when people comment on your clothes though. For example, a guy at work yesterday said "good sneaker game" to me because I wore new Nike's one day & new Puma's the next. I would happily drop $400+ on designer clothes if I felt I had enough money saved up from working hard & budgeting my money, too.

7-do you prefer to fit in or stand out?

I think, just like I'd assume most other people, I try to do a little bit of both. I wouldn't want to be "basic" or agree with other people just for the sake of fitting in, but I also don't see a reason to try to stand out just for the sake of being different. I feel like I can fit in with any group of people usually. I can be sporty, edgy, preppy, nerdy... my interest are all over the place. I like to put my own spin on things, though. For example, if I wear a basic item like Ugg boots they can't be the plain tan ones. They have to be purple or black ones with the bows on the back. idk if that's a good example lol but I'm sure you guys get the point.

8-what activities do you enjoy?

Sports, other hands-on things like playing pool, watching YouTubers & getting creative ideas from them, trying new foods, traveling, watching TV, debating politics or watching political stuff, watching stand up comedy, & probably a million other things.

9-what makes you feel secure?

I don't want to feel secure. I want to keep pushing past my comfort zones & expand myself. I guess I'd say making & saving money.

10-do you like being in a relationship? why/why not?

It's not a main focus. I like being independent. However, it's nice to have someone's company you genuinely enjoy & can share thoughts, feelings, & experiences with.

11-what do you love and why? Could be people, things, places, etc...

I love trying new things. I feel like I'd sound like an asshole if I didn't say I love my family. lol I love my friends. I love entertainment. Sports, movies, TV shows, books, music, plays, etc.

12-what do you spend the most time thinking about?

Analyzing things, things I want to do/try, convos I wish I'd have with people, sarcastic comments, random things like what if we're living in the matrix, analyzing people, & food.

13-How much have you changed over the years? Who were you as a child?

I think I'm a lot more of a people person & outgoing than I was. I still have my defiant streak in me that I did as a kid.

Personal concepts
1. What is beauty? What is love?

When I hear beauty, I think aesthetically pleasing. Something like clothes, a painting, flowers, etc. that looks good or a person or a trait that person has like their eyes that looks good. Beauty can be used to describe someone's personality too, like that person has a beautiful soul/heart.

Love is compassion. Being outwardly kind, considerate, & generous to other people. Caring for people & wanting the best for them. You can have love for individual people, & you can just have love for mankind in general.

2. What are your most important values?

Freedom, not just for myself but others too. I don't think people should be controlled. Besides that the only thing I can think of is that I try not to ever be unnecessarily rude to anybody. As the saying goes, you catch more bees with honey!

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

Not really. I believe in free will. Besides that, I just like learning about different religions & beliefs. I find them more interesting/fascinating than anything else. It's also interesting how lots of religions kind of tie together or how they barrow things from each other. I find buddhism/Hinduism probably the most interesting. I used to look up things about past lives, karma, destiny/fate, soulmates, & twin flames. I don't believe in those things, though.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

People are greedy & crave power, control, & resources so unfortunately war & militaries are inevitable. I wouldn't think anyone would prefer war but it happens, so we might as well make sure we make our military strong. I believe more in using military for self defense than just deploying troops in any country people feel the need to get involved in when they don't need to.

Power is having a leadership role over someone else. I wouldn't say power is a bad thing. Companies have managers who technically have power over their associates. Just because they're technically in charge of the people under them doesn't mean that they're mean to those people. Different people just use power in different ways. I would personally love to be a manager at a big company, so in a way I crave power/being in charge sometimes. My favorite thing to tell others though is that being a boss doesn't mean you're bossy.

Interests
5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

Any & everything. Pretty much whatever someone wants to talk about. I can hop into or keep a convo going on pretty much anything. I'll talk about shows, movies, books, friends, politics, funny stories, sports, psychology, life advice, people's dreams/fears, food, traveling, family.. every convo with me is probably a long convo because I love to talk. lol

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

Yes. I like talking about working out & fitness. I'll talk to people about different diets & get their opinions on them like pescatarian, vegetarian, vegan, Mediterranean, paleo, keto.. When it comes to medicine, I've told people the bad side effects I've gotten from medicine & why I refuse now to take anything. I'll tell people the less crap you put in your body the better.

I'm not often focused on pain or anything like that though. If something hurts I'll just take like 2 or 3 advil & put it out of my mind & keep on with my day.

7. What do you think of daily chores?

That they're not very daily. lol If I'm really bored sometimes I'll actually purposefully seek out chores around the house to do. It depends how busy I am with other things whether I see them as a pain or not.

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Haven't watched any movies lately. I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. Been watching Dexter on Netflix. Currently reading How To Be A Bawse by Lilly Singh (she's my fav youtuber) & Greg Gutfeld's book of monologues.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

The last time I cried was when I lost my job, because I felt like all the things I wanted to achieve in the future with the company had just been completely crushed.

I smile all the time. I try to enjoy & make the best out of my day, & I love being funny & just joking around with other people. I'm usually smiling & laughing & clowning around with people.

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

I love all outdoors activities. Playing sports, theme parks, & hiking.

Evaluation & Behaviour
11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

I can make friends problems my problems sometimes. I don't like to see other people upset, & I like to try to fix their issues for them. My anger can be a weakness sometimes. I used to be too generous to people that don't deserve it, but I don't do that anymore so I've overcome that one.

I try not to dislike myself or things about me. I like to just hopefully improve. I dislike that I can be impulsive & don't think things through. I dislike that I can fear commitment, being trapped, & not stick with things because of it.

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

A lot! I'm a people person & usually good with people, I can come up with better/easier ways to do things, I have a good sense of humor, I catch onto things fast, I'm helpful & never mind questions from people, & I'm ambitious & persistent but also kind & laid back with others.

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

Being better at time management. I never write anything down like making a to do list, I'm terrible at being like I'm going to do this at this time, & I can't for the life of me stick to a routine. I want someone to basically be like ok every day at 10:00 we're hitting the gym together. I feel like I need someone else to keep me accountable on things.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Yes, often. I'm never moving at the pace that I want to be. I've gotten better at not getting discouraged about it.

People & Interactions
15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

People's humor, their randomness, their achievements, their ambition/motivation, their kindness, their empathy, & their energy.

I dislike when people are rude, too uptight, unwilling to try other people's ideas, have no sense of humor, get offended easily, are too sensitive or sulk too much, or don't realize their impact on the people around them.

16. How do you feel about romance/sex?

What qualities do you want in a partner?

Romance sounds nice, but I've never had someone be romantic with me. Never been in a long term relationship actually. Sex is fun & a nice experience to share with someone, & it's exciting to try new sexual things with them.

17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

I don't really have many worries about it. I think kids are fun. I would probably just treat them like a small playmate tbh. Anything else would probably just depend on things about them individually.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

Ask them a ton of questions, & see why they think the way they do. I don't need other people to agree with me, & I actually think it's more fun when they don't. I like to debate. Also, I just like to learn people's motivations & thought processes. Maybe I could also change their mind or they can change mine, but I don't bank on it. Always cool to try to get new information from others.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

Being realistic, I probably think of most people as being neutral. I try to give to charities whenever companies are raising money for the make a wish foundation or something like that. I do think society as a whole deserves voluntary compassion.

Selfishness & being self absorbed. Also, people being judgy & trying to push their "morals" on others.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

I just meet people randomly tbh. I've meet friends at college in my dorm lounge, at school dances, at work.. whoever has good energy & that I enjoy talking to I'll be friends with.

21. How do you behave around strangers?

Outgoing & try to just be myself. Yesterday in line at chipotle the guy in front of me just started talking & joking around with me. We were mostly talking about food & different creative food ideas like making a dessert pizza.

1. Is it worse to fail at something or never attempt it in the first place?

I hate to fail, but I think you should always go after realistic things you want. If you don't attempt them, you can't improve or even know that something is not the path for you.

2. If you could choose just one thing to change about the world, what would it be?

That everyone could live in a free society & no country to be ruled by a dictator. Free markets everywhere. People can strive for success, if they choose. Be entrepreneurial. Be whatever they want (with a bit of luck & talent).

3. To what extent do you shape your own destiny, and how much is down to fate?

Some things are out of people's control like a 5 year old having cancer, but I think a lot of life is personal choice. People have a lot of control to change their life, if they want to. I don't think fate is set.

4. What happens after we die?

I've pondered that a lot, & I truly don't know. I can't really give a better answer.

5. Should people care more about doing the right thing, or doing things right?

What makes something the "right" thing? Right by me? Right by someone else? Right by the law? Right by society?

Same with "doing things right". Right by set standards? As in following directions?

Umm.. idk.

6. What one piece of advice would you offer to a newborn infant?

Make your own success, regardless of anyone's actions around you or what they tell you.

7. Where is the line between insanity and creativity?

I don't equate the 2. Insanity to be is like being a serial killer, & that's not creativity. Lol

8. What is true happiness?

Feeling proud of yourself & generally having a positive outlook most days.

9. What things hold you back from doing the things that you really want to?

Yourself. It may take longer to make some things a reality than others but perseverance is what you need. Not taking the plunge will hold you back. You need to decide that you want to make it happen.

10. What makes you, you?

I'm struggling with this one. lol Many things? Everything about me comes together like a package, I guess?

11. What is the truth?

Sound logic backed up by facts found through research, probing & tough questions, & not clouded by personal feelings.

12. If lying is wrong, are white lies okay?

What someone doesn't know won't hurt them, right? ;)

13. How do you know your perceptions are real?

When it's backed up by logic that makes sense & can be explained. Helps if you can easily site statistics & such to back up your conclusions.

14. What makes a good friend?

Dependable, trustworthy, loyal, fun, & interesting to talk to.

15. Why do people fear losing things that they do not even have yet?

Because they have a vision that they hope to turn into reality, & that things can out according to that vision.

16. Who decides what morality is?

imo society does, but that's probably because I struggle to judge things as unequivocally right or wrong myself. Many people I know would say, I'm sure, that it's defined by themself. Even killing, in a case of self defense, I would say is fine. Intentionally harming others is never a kind thing to do & should be avoided if possible. I think that's a pretty good rule of thumb to follow.

17. What is the difference between living and being alive?

Living is merely existing. Being alive is fully being present & revealing in the moment. Being adventurous, taking chances & risk, & cherishing exactly what's happening right now.

18. Is a “wrong” act okay if nobody ever knows about it?

As long as it only negatively affects yourself. Define wrong? For example, someone who's deeply religious might think sex before marriage is wrong, but to me & millions of other people we see no problem with it. I think just realizing that you're going to mess up & not be perfect is how you should handle it. I don't know if I'd say it's ok. If I murdered someone & no one found out about it, i wouldn't say it's ok. It's just hopefully something to not repeat, & "wrong" can exist on a wide scale.

19. Is there a reason to life?

Something I've pondered, but I still come up dry. Add advancement to the world?

20. How do you know that your experience of consciousness is the same as other people’s experience of consciousness?

You don't unless you ask. People judge & perceive the same things right in front of their faces as vastly different at times. People take & interpret things in different ways. It's a pretty hard thing to gauge at times.

21. What is true strength?

Having the cards stacked against you, but you proceed forward with your goal anyways & you make your own better future happen.

22. What is true love?

Something that doesn't exist, & that I'm not looking for.

23. Is a family still relevant in the modern world?

Statistically they say it's better for children's well being & development. I think it's always relevant, but no everyone wants or needs it for a fulfilling life.

24. What role does honor play in today’s society?

What role does it ever play in society? It's not a word I focus too much on, to be honest.

25. If money cannot buy happiness, can you ever be truly happy with no money?

It doesn't per se but happiness, because people need social interaction, a sense of belonging, a sense of achievement, etc. People are multifaceted & have many other needs besides money.

A certain amount of money does make life easier & less stressful in ways. I don't think you could survive at all without money, so in actuality no you couldn't be happy with no money.

26. How should people live their lives?

However they choose & see fit. I have no desire to control other people's lives.

27. How much control do you have over your life?

A lot more than I think many people think they do. You just have to utilize your skills, talents, opportunities, etc. Personal drive can go a long way.

28. What is freedom?

To be able to make your own choices. No one controlling your life. Having free thought, free speech, freedom to do what you want to your own body, live the way you want to, do what you want with your own money, & running your own life.

29. Isn’t one person’s terrorist another person’s freedom fighter?

I can see that. An oppressive government would definitely see a freedom fighter as a terrorist. However, some people claim to be fighting for freedom but sometimes their ideas wouldn't bring true freedom for anyone.

30. Does nature shape our personalities more than nurture?

Like almost most things with psychology from my research seems to suggest, I think it's truly a combination of both.

31. What defines you?

This question seems tough. I would say the things I achieve in life defines me. My thoughts definitely define me, too.

32. What do people strive for after enlightenment?

I strive to improve. I don't want to be stuck in the same place 5, 10, 20 yrs from now.

33. Do we have a soul?

Considering I believe in supernatural things, I'd say yes.

34. What is intelligence?

Having a high IQ can be intelligence, good at logical reasoning can be intelligence, creativity can be intelligence, & also being good at reading & understanding people's emotions can be intelligence (emotional intelligence & is important too).

35. Do you make your own decisions, or let others make them for you?

I may ask many people for their input or opinions, but honestly I make my own decisions.

36. What is reality?

Things you can clearly see with your eyes.

37. Is trust more important than love?

Yes, because you can love someone who doesn't treat well & isn't good for you.

38. Is it easier to love or be loved?

I struggle with vulnerability, so this is a tough one for me. I guess to be loved is easier.

39. Is it better to love and lose or never to love?

If meant only in a romantic way, I'd say it's better to never love. I'm definitely have a dismissive attachment type, so that affects my answer.

40. Do aliens exist?

Yes, the universe is way to big for them not to.
 
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[MENTION=35566]Luminous[/MENTION] do you think ESTP seems fitting for me? Do you have any knowledge in socionics & have any thoughts on possible types for me in that? Or what quadra you would suggest?
 

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[MENTION=35566]Luminous[/MENTION] do you think ESTP seems fitting for me? Do you have any knowledge in socionics & have any thoughts on possible types for me in that? Or what quadra you would suggest?

I'm not very good at typing MBTI wise, but ESTP wouldn't seem odd to me for you. And sorry, no, I'm not knowledgeable in socionics.
 
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[MENTION=34313]RadicalDoubt[/MENTION] any thoughts/opinions you could add? Would be appreciated.
 

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[MENTION=34313]RadicalDoubt[/MENTION] any thoughts/opinions you could add? Would be appreciated.
My response is all over the place (sorry), so I'm just going to mention I think you're ESTP and probably SLE-Ti (I'm not excellent with socionics, but I found some things that could be fitting and put you in the right direction for looking into socio-type). By enneagram, I agree with [MENTION=35566]Luminous[/MENTION], I think 3w2 would fit better than 7w8, 378 tritype (probably in that order too) is probably closest to fitting based on this alone.

Reading through this, I definitely think you're likely either a so/sp rather than a so/sx (probably the prior). A lot of what you mention in here is specifically "anti-sx"

Passion just sounds like lust to me.. mmm.. I don't think I want to elaborate on that. lol

I can be an all or nothing person. Obsession with people is unhealthy though & it places a person on a pedestal, so it's illogical to do & will lead to problems or at very least disappoint. This is actually a very common thread among low sx; A tendency to view passion/obsession in the negative and kind of oscillate between it rather than consistently being not obsessive or very obsessive.

I think I can "merge" with other people. I find myself liking music, shows, etc. that people do around me. I'll get into new fashion styles because of people I'm around. Also, I'll start picking up people's phrases & the way they talk This is just very Se and social instinct

I feel like I can fit in with any group of people usually. I can be sporty, edgy, preppy, nerdy... my interest are all over the place

I struggle with vulnerability, so this is a tough one for me. I guess to be loved is easier. Sx typically implies some sort of submission or desire to dominate, you don't seem to be either of these and this sort of takes submission of the table.
In a sense, you seem to have a more stable concept of boundaries than sp blinds of your type combination (which seems consistent with 378 tritype in general) both physical and mental, I think more realistically you are Si-Ignoring rather than sp blind (ie. SLE by socionics standards), as the two are often conflated for one another. Some of your relationship with relationships could probably also apply to some degree with Fi polR, which furthers the possibility of SLE btw. Your concept of merging also sounds rather Se in both the mbti and socionics sense, being connected with an environment or others in a sense.

Also having stuff like this:
Yes. I like talking about working out & fitness. I'll talk to people about different diets & get their opinions on them like pescatarian, vegetarian, vegan, Mediterranean, paleo, keto.. When it comes to medicine, I've told people the bad side effects I've gotten from medicine & why I refuse now to take anything. I'll tell people the less crap you put in your body the better.

I like expensive food, clothes, cars, etc. and dream about working my way up a company and/or being a successful entrepreneur. I'm a workaholic. I rarely take time off of work, and will happily work 60 hours a week if it means making and saving more money for myself.
An attention and decent focus on the material world and resources is pretty sp. I see where lumi was questioning sp/so, but you seem to have more social instinct themes than sp instinct themes (and being that you currently type as sp blind, I figure you don't relate strongly enough to sp for sp dominance).

I think by both systems, you are clearly on the Fe-Ti axis/valuing. Your logic style seems to follow how Ti works and your ability to read people, create and enjoy emotional expression in a playful fashion, etc. is very Fe in both systems. Since you seem fairly set with Ti-Fe axis, I won't super elaborate on this one. For Se-Ni, you mention struggling to learn from past experiences (which is prominent in both Pi inferior types), but also a focus and attention to the tangible world and an ability to merge with your environment. You are able to use force and your personal energy to get things done and also seem to be action oriented and grounded, hence why I think Se is fitting. Again, not too much elaboration because you self type as ESTP.

I see a lot more 3 themes in the way you answered these questions than 7 (and I think 3w2 is reasonable as, why I don't see strong 2 in this, I see a little bit and also no 4). You consistently label yourself as a "workaholic" and do not seem to mention much about the fear of containment or deprivation (you mention similar themes a couple of times though, which makes me think 7 is still there), especially as much as your reference the notion of fearing failure, which is mentioned multiple times and finds it's theme in a lot of your shame related questions. In addition, you repeatedly reference avoiding being clouded by feelings when making decisions and seem to emphasize logic very much in a way typical of the competency types (ie. 3, 5, 1). You seem attentive to others, adaptive and aware of what others desire/a good read of others, attentive to appearance both at the mental and physical level, and somewhat distant from your emotions or anything you feel could cloud your judgement in a way I associate more with 3. I don't see I lot of reverence to the sort of idealism or longing 7 feels towards the ideal experience either, which is why I say 3 > 7 is probable.
 
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[MENTION=34313]RadicalDoubt[/MENTION] Thank you for the in depth response. It was definitely helpful & insightful. I really understand & resonate with what you said. Was definitely informative.
 

Burning Paradigm

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ESTP 7w8 > 3w2 > 8w7 so/sp. Holy fucking shit, do I see Se or do I see Se? Wasn't sure about aux Ti or Fi, but I see elements of probable tertiary Fe; there's somewhat of an attunement with how you interact with the world around you based on shared values, mutual respect, things like that. As far as Enneagram goes, my personal impression is a lot of mental energy that I associate with Type 7, but I can see a strong 3-fix as well (being a workaholic isn't necessarily a 3 trait). The focus is more attuned to the wider social world around you (so), but there's also a deep valuing of obtaining resources (sp-second). My personal impression is more along the lines of 738 so/sp.
 
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ESTP 7w8 > 3w2 > 8w7 so/sp. Holy fucking shit, do I see Se or do I see Se? Wasn't sure about aux Ti or Fi, but I see elements of probable tertiary Fe; there's somewhat of an attunement with how you interact with the world around you based on shared values, mutual respect, things like that. As far as Enneagram goes, my personal impression is a lot of mental energy that I associate with Type 7, but I can see a strong 3-fix as well (being a workaholic isn't necessarily a 3 trait). The focus is more attuned to the wider social world around you (so), but there's also a deep valuing of obtaining resources (sp-second). My personal impression is more along the lines of 738 so/sp.

You're comment on the Se :D Thanks for the input. Seems like everyone's at least in agreement on my dom function, my tritype (378 or 738), & my instinctual variants.
 

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ESTP seems about right. ENTP would be my 2nd guess.
 
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