Hi. Can you help me? It's been a couple of years since I've known about all this, but

[ChoiceManufacturer]

Hi. It's been a couple of years since I've known about all this, but I still couldn't find my type. I've always tried my chances at Reddit. Over the years I've been typed as INTJ, INTP, INFP, ISFP, INFJ and ENFP. I always had conflictions, too emotional-warm for INTJ, too logical in terms of decision making for INFP/ISFP etc. I want to finish this and come to a conclusion, I've put a lot effort in this and I sincerely appreciate anyone taking their time to help me.

I also want to add that English is not my native language and that I'm sorry for any grammar mistakes.

Here is my Reddit userpage if my post history would be useful for this, ChoiceManufacturer

I will answer two questionnaires. The first one is John's Personality Test. The second one is from here.

I've had problems with tests. On top of being too vague to answeri I think they disregard many things and most of the time give invalid results, so I commented on each question.

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John's Personality Test

1. Social interaction comes to you naturally or with effort,

Since I have very few friends, it's rather an easy process but a hassle none the less. Work. With effort.

2. You are better at learning abstract concepts or facts and procedures,

Understanding something and the remembering that is easier than trying to memorize facts and procedures. Remembering the dates of some wars is harder than remembering how something works. Remembering events is easier than some certain words. Although medical facts like symptoms are easy for me to remember, learning/understanding and then remembering is much easier. Ultimately, I'm skipping this question because I'm unsure as to how to answer.

3. Are you more sensitive or impartial?

I'm more sensitive to things happenning to me, especially things that break my motivation. Someone or something saying you can't do it and, being made fun of because of my thoughts. I never show if I'm hurt, but If I care enough I attack back with more power.

For the impartial part, I can say with %100 accuracy I can be just. What needs to happen, happen.

I will skip this question too. I can't really choose one, I wouldn't say I'm sensitive, I really seem so, my girlfriend says this all the time that I look like I have zero emotion, senseless and insensitive but I'm not like that inside. I wouldn't feel sad because someone in the news died in a motorcycle crash, not my problem, If I have to feel sad, I would feel sad about the causes that brought him to this situation/end.

4. When you make plans, you follow them consistently, or not,

I've always liked to make plans, be organized and prepared, NOT tidy. Even as I kid I liked to categorize my closet. I could that everthing has a place of its own, its category. It seems like routine but it's not. The ashtray is always on the left of the computer, because this is the best way. I can smoke with one hand and use the mouse with the other.

For the question of consistence, if my will and motivation allows it, then yes. It depends on the importance of the plan, but I wouldn't change it once I've decided so I will say yes on this question.

5. It's frustrating when people don't consider other's feelings or the facts,

I don't like it when people are harsh without a purpose, when arguing if what you're saying doesn't contribute to anything but you're hurting the other side then just shut the fuck up. I'm furious when people deny the obvious facts and still insist on their thoughts. I will skip this question.

6. Meeting a new person, you first might try to connect to his emotions or probe how he thinks,

I would probably focus on what kind of person he is, on an intellectual and characteristic level, not fucking what he's feeling right now. Probe how he thinks.

7. Would you rather get the facts or understand the theory,

On what? It depends. It's too vast for me to answer. I will skip this question.

8. You'd describe yourself as more factual or speculative,

I like to talk about different possibilities on a concept, so, speculative.

9. In small groups, you are usually one of the most talkative or quiet and restrained,

Definitely not quiet but not the one who won't just shut up. I will skip this question.

10. Are you more imaginative or realistic,

When faced with a problem, %100 realistic, when talking about ideas, or while having usual conversation definetely imaginative. It's boring if you don't cross the limits. Imaginative.

11. You'd describe yourself as more open or private,

This is an easy one, private.

12. You favor the path that is more conventional or unconventional,

If the conventional path is best way to take. New ways would be definetely interesting to explore, but not worth changing the best way. Conventional.

13. It's exhausting to read abstract theory books, yes or no,

Too vast. Depends on the area I'm studying. I enjoy reading about how things work, things such as internet, cars, human mind, electronics. If they count as abstract theory books, then no, it's not exhausting.

14. You strive to always be just or merciful,

Easy one, definetely just.

15. You tend to live in the moment or visualize the future,

What does living in the moment mean? I honestly don't understand. Focusing on what you and your body is feeling right now, admiring the scenery? When having a great moment in your life, stopping everythink to think "Yes, yes, this is just right" ? If this is what it means, then why would I visualize the future in these situations. I think my answer to this question is "It depends", I will skip this one too.

16. You are deeply moved by people's emotional stories, yes, or no,

Nope. Not interested. I would only be interested if this story is about a man, who turns his entire life around to accomplish his goals about what to become and prove himself to himself, because I can relate to this.

17. Is it worse to be scatterbrained, or stuck in your ways?

If your ways are proven to be the best way to do things, then it's not bad, it's great, although boring. Being scatterbrained and having too much ideas is tiring to organize and find the best idea. Scatterbrained.

18. You are more mindful of the future or the present,

I don't think much about the present but I don't all the time fucking think about my next move. Once I've decided that, it's just here. I will skip this question.

19. You rely more on your force of will or emotional strenght,

Force of will means ignoring your emotions even though how pathetic they might make you. Force of will.

20. You work better with a deadline or in your own time,

Being precise about when it needs to done is better. I would just worry too much if someone gave me a project and said, give it to me when you've done it, I would do it right away. With a deadline is better.

21. You prefer video games that reward you for playing efficiently or creatively,

Think about a race game. Doing the fastest lap or finding a shortcut. The latter seems more enjoyable and rewarding. Creatively.

22. You tend to speak rather figuratively or literally,

Depends on the situation if I'm explaining something, I would speak figuratively to make the person understand the subject better, but in normal life there is no need to lose time, so literally.

23. Making decisions, do you tend to favor what should or what has worked?

I never thought about "what has worked". When I've made decision, it's mostly, "what should work".

24. You tend to leave things in their proper place or just lying around,

Their proper place.

25. You usually talk in specific terms or general terms,

This question also is too vast for me to answer. I will skip this question.

26. You join in the social life of a new area rapidly or slowly,

Slowly for sure. Who really joins rapidly in a new social life?

27. You reflect more often on your short term goals or long term goals,

I have problems with motivation and consistency due to depression, I want to reflect more on my long term goals but I don't, I can't and then feel guilty about it. I will skip this question because If I didn't have depression, the latter I would chose.

28. You make decisions based on logic or feelings,

Logic but not %100. Let's think about college, If I want to change my major, for example to music because I feel like I should do it, I will definetely try to justify that with logic, job opportunities, what did people do after finishing etc.

29. You usually work first and then play or the vice versa,

Work first, so I wouldn't be bothered by thought of "I need to finish my work" when I'm playing.

30. Lying up at night, are you remembering the events of the day or being struck with new ideas,

It's more like both to be honest. First remembering the events going somewhere from that. At the end, always imagining situations that will never happen. I will skip this question.

31. You usually daydream about memories of real places, fantasies of new worlds,

Real places but not memories. I enjoy talking about past, because I miss it deeply, it seems to me that in the past I was more myself, more happier and a better person overall. I don't dream about new worlds so often, sometimes when I have ideas. Like a world full of water, streets are full of water, so everyone goes wherever they go by swimming. Cars are designed for water. Not like ocean, there is still air, we, humans can still breathe. I will choose new worlds.

32. Do you perform better under pressure?

I don't perform better or worse. I would get a little bit excited and that's all. I'm proud of myself in that way, I can remain calm in most situations, risky, too much pressure etc. I will skip this question.

33. What's more appealing harmony or success?

Easy one, success.

34. You find it hard to be yourself in social situations, yes, or no?

I don't like behave like someone I'm not, but I really find it hard to be myself in social situations. Yes.

35. In difficult situations, you're more often too uncaring or too soft,

I enjoy difficult situations. Too uncaring.

36. You often seem to be running late, yes or no,

Never.

The test is over. These are the results. I'm not convinced.

40% INTJ

27% ISTJ

9% INTP

7% ENTJ

4% ESTJ

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[ChoiceManufacturer]

1. What is beauty? What is love?

Beauty is what appealing is. To the eye, to the ear, to the mind. Love is experienced and expressed as something magical, but on the logical side, it is nothing but hormones and the mind working together.

2. What are your most important values?

I want to be succesful, I don't want to disappoint the ones who I deeply care. This my minimum threshold. Although in general, I want to find a meaning and a purpose for my life, I want to find out my truth and what I'm meant to do and be.

3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I don't have any beliefs, I'm an atheist, but I have obsessions, illogical necessities. When everything in my life is going well or when I'm grateful something is the way it is, I fear that it might not contiune that way and as a result of that, I thank the universe.

4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

War is foolish and crazy, unnecessary when inspected only by itself. People don't have to die, I personally want equality for all. I think that the government should serve the people and not vice-versa. I'm disgusted by the top %1, because I can't be them to be honest. However, that world of equality will never happen as well as the world peace. So when "war" is inspected as a whole, it becomes a necessity, what needs to be done, needs to be done in order to achieve the desired goal. If we look at it from a bird's eye view, if the risk calculations were made correctly, and casualties are calculated to be "worth" it, 100.000 people be it our side or the enemy's, dying every year because of war is nothing to be compared to the advantage it will bring over the enemy. Ultimately, world peace would be better, everyone cooperating to improve the humanity would be better.

5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

Long conversations, speculating about universe or any phenomenon in general such as human behaviour, conspiracy or technology and speculating about how something works and finding an explanation for it.

My interests are spending my all day in front of the computer, imagining extremely realistic video games (not in terms of graphics), cyberpunk universes, simulation games, composing music, finding interesting things and learning about them, imagining situations that will never happen, thinking about how my life would be different if I did x, instead of y.

6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

I actually am/was interested in medicine. I like reading about symptoms of different diseases. Neurology and psychology interests me also. One of my most fun activites is guessing what type of disease someone has, asking them questions, finding the problem etc. Obviously I'm not that knowledgeable but, it's an activity I like to do none the less. I couldn't say that I'm focused on my body, other than occasionally inspecting it.

7. What do you think of daily chores?

They are too much work. I'm very irresponsible on this matter. I even hate going to the bathroom to relieve myself.

8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

Blade Runner. Mad Max. Maze Runners. Amadeus is my personal favourite. The Clockwork Orange.

9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

Hachiko made me cry, for sure. There is a manga called "I sold my life for ten thousand yen per year". Sometimes the impending uncertainty of my future when I haven't set it up, when I have no purpose, no meaning, no goals, nothing. That made me cry once. These are all rare occasions.

10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

A sense of belonging and familiarity in my environment is better for me.

11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

I don't show a lot of weakness. Nothing I can think of at the moment. What I dislike about myself: Neurotic, depressive, takes too much time to consider everything, really unsure to take action and defenseless when the information is not accurate. Sometimes, when something bad happens to someone, I know I'm supposed to feel bad but I think "It's not my fault, or my problem" and then feel guilty because I'm supposed to feel bad, although I see this one as something I can overcome.

12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

My father really likes how I make decisions and plan ahead. I personally think that I can render a lot of information when I only have one tiny piece. That makes me seem a lot more knowledgeable than I am, in reality it is only interpretation/intuition. I like my possibility to success, I believe I have what it takes.

13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

I would want principles that I've prepared for every bad situation, mostly emotionally. I would like to get help on motivation. I dislike people trying to give me emotional support when I'm low, I want solutions.

14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

Routine is fine for me. I have my best ways of doing every thing. It is the best, so why would I change them? Doing the same things everyday, that sucks but I'm used to do it, I'm used to accept that life will be monotone. My fear is for the future, when I get a job, create a family, 9/5, become another slave.

15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

I feel comfortable around people who are confident, and the people who doesn't need emotional support. I feel the most awkard/uncomfortable around people with ESFJ traits, they being so natural at conversations, movements. I just stare blankly, and can't really attune with them.

16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

Intelligent, mature, not too pretentious but not too jiggly/bubbly, needs to know when to be serious.

17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

I want him/her to be prepared for the world. I was rather raised with more Fe, if that makes sense. I was always told to behave differently with different people, so in a way people would like me, so that I don't become the odd one. Being an introvert as well, in my family's view that was something to be shunned. They thought there was something wrong with me, because I didn't want to interact with people as much as they do. It pisses me of, that. I had problems, still have, adjusting to the social environment, even though my parent's constant forcing of social norms/rules, how to behave, the thought that I need to be better with people were affecting me negatively, it payed off eventually, I'm not as worse as before. I've come a long way.

I was always told that I should be good to people no matter what, help everyone and listen what my elders have to say. That's the number one bullshit I hate the most. It was a brutal and a long road dissmissing this doctrine out of my mind. I don't want my children to experience all of this. I want him/her to be thick-skinned. This is one of the reasons I don't think I'm INTJ, I see myself as more emotional than an INTJ, more of a talker also. I didn't have much friends throughout my life but I was not always as introverted as I am right now. This is one of the conflicts that I have. In middle school I talked a lot, I was a people pleaser (I think that's because of my family), and pretty much said everything that came to my mind and in return got bullied a lot. I had to learn the social environment the hard way. I will not let this happen to my children.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

If I see him being wrong, I can't stop myself from arguing to convince him that he is wrong, but mostly if I don't care about this person's thoughts, I don't act on it. If it is not something I defend strongly or this person doesn't consider hard facts. The latter makes me furious. People mostly laugh at flat earthers and anti vaxxers, I just can't stand them and get really angry.

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

I don't think I can be fully myself socially. I don't like people because they are ruthless, are hypocrites, are low. I can't stand people who talk about social media, their boyfriends, girlfriends etc. all day.

Social problem. Seeing someone familiar in the street, being not too close to say hi, but not too distant to ignore. People I don't know coming to my social group.

20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

I mostly hide my real thoughts and feelings around pretty much everyone. I don't open up easily. I want to, I want to find someone who will understand, but I can't see anyone worthy of to remove my wall.

It's mostly jokes and insults to each other.

21. How do you behave around strangers?

Brief, but warm (that I had to learn over time).

 

[ChoiceManufacturer]

• I enjoy learning while interacting with people on an intellectual level. I like to think out loud, share my ideas. I mostly enjoy it when people show me different ideas regarding a problem, and ask me to speculate.
• I am most energized by people who challenge me mentally, on problems, not when they ask what I think about "love" or other concepts. I need to find my thoughts, and need a long time when asked such a question, but not when asked about problems.
• I memorize best by repetition, but I'm not like this regarding learning theories. It's only sufficient to understand in order to remember.
• I like to give fun facts about things when I'm in a good mood, how they have come to be, their history, their facts when I see the opportunity.
• I can't stop correcting when I know that I know better.
• I'm mesmerized by scientists, doctors, people who are really intelligent and knowledgeable in general.
• I'm proud of my ability to stay calm in extreme/risky/difficult situations, I'm proud of my ability to calculate quickly to do what's best to do instantly, in that current situation.
• I like to organize my environment into categories and tidy it up. When I'm in a bad place emotionally, I don't do it.
• I like to be alone in the crowd, I feel the need to stay connected to humanity, not because I'm not enjoying being alone, having few friends, it's because when I'm too alone, I feel like my thoughts are driving me to insanity. Because of mental disorders, I introspect too much, and the world outside is a distraction from them.
• I was always good at language tests, interpreting something's meaning, idioms etc.
• When I have too much ideas on one subject, I need to organize and reduce them to the truth.
• I'm good at bullshitting, talking nonsene, finding new/nonsensical words, creating completely nonsensical stories in an instant.
• I'm a pessimist.

 

[ChoiceManufacturer]

Why am I not getting anwsers? I thought I've provided a good set of facts and answers for deducing my type.

 

[RedAmazoneFriendZone]

Why am I not getting anwsers? I thought I've provided a good set of facts and answers for deducing my type.

You are a type 5. Well many posts remain in the air, c'est la vie !

Maybe they didn't answer that because you wrote (the last line) : I'm pessimistic.
As a conclusion people may think you'll be a pain in the ass if they give you their opinion on your type.
Okay I may be talking about myself but there is a truth here : When people are lazy (yes, this can happen as well) they generally start reading the last line.
And they stop.



Most of the time they would love to, but see how the brain works, it is tricky. Humans are made this way...

 

[Caribelle]

Perhaps INTP...

 

[ChoiceManufacturer]

Perhaps INTP...

Hi. Why, could you elaborate. I've read about functions and dichtotomies regarding Socionics, I've come to the conclusion that I'm an INTJ, I'm fairly sure, %75.