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[ISTP] Allure of the ISTP

lauranna

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This may be a little off-topic, I don't know, but I can't help but to be a little bothered here. It's declared that ISTPs are really cool and ENFP is naturally atracted to them. But what about the other side? Are ISTPs attracted to ENFPs as well?

Not noticeably. I tend to fancy *SFJs. But if ENFPs are easy then I am defo more attracted to them.
 

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Not noticeably. I tend to fancy *SFJs. But if ENFPs are easy then I am defo more attracted to them.

Haha, not in general. ENFP's like to talk flirty but often are all talk and no action. They require tying down with glitter paperweights. :newwink:

But... what about attraction, are ISTP's attracted to their type?
 

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Wow, that is sad. And to think I once thought it was a mutual attraction... ):
 

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Yeah I though t it was ESFPs, not ENFPs, that are supposed to be easy. And I think that one Duck of Death dude knows too many ENFPs, some are probably xSFPs. Ive seen both ESFP and ISFP confused with ENFP for various reasons.

Hell I thought I was an ENFP until I started noticing funny things like I go facts first THEN speculations, and I actually like graphic porn and am not opposed to sex in an outdoor tool shed just because it doesn't have the right atmosphere. I also don't have trouble getting into my body, I am quite aware of it. Though I can figure certain people out, its because I study them in close detail, not because Im psychic. I am also highly competitive and slightly brutal. I decided this was all because I have Se. I also think I use more Ni than Ne. I think people with Ne say things like what if this and this until it gets so far from reality it annoys me. I do not think it would annoy me, were I a real Ne dom, and not just an educated, intellectually curious xSFP. I also think its why I annoy NTs so much with my anecdotes. I can feel NTs reading this and putting me on ignore right now. :phantom:
 

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Wow, that is sad. And to think I once tought it was a mutual attraction... ):

I think if an individual ISTP likes you then you will know. They don't seem to have patience for people they lack interest in, and if a particularly smooth ISTP was using you for sex, he could probably get it elsewhere, he wouldn't keep returning just because you are familiar, they are not ISxJs.

Ive heard this from my own ISTP (I wouldn't even be here if I didn't like you) and have read others writing similar things to describe themselves.

Type compatibility can get a little silly anyway. ENFP and ISTp are only compatible in Socionics anyway. ISTps in that system actually have Si/Te like an ISTJ.
 

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I think if an individual ISTP likes you then you will know. They don't seem to have patience for people they lack interest in, and if a particularly smooth ISTP was using you for sex, he could probably get it elsewhere, he wouldn't keep returning just because you are familiar, they are not ISxJs.

Ive heard this from my own ISTP (I wouldn't even be here if I didn't like you) and have read others writing similar things to describe themselves.

Type compatibility can get a little silly anyway. ENFP and ISTp are only compatible in Socionics anyway. ISTps in that system actually have Si/Te like an ISTJ.

Okay, so short patience with people they don't like, eh? Now that you've said it, it makes sense, this does seems like an ISTP attitude. Anyway, I guess I'll have to change my attitude toward two ISTP girls I'm interested.

I don't really know Socionics x MBTI differences. It's not reliable, then? I mean, their compatibility system. I really like to base myself in that.
 

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Haha, not in general. ENFP's like to talk flirty but often are all talk and no action. They require tying down with glitter paperweights. :newwink:

But... what about attraction, are ISTP's attracted to their type?

The bondage is no problem. Not sure about the glitter paperweights.

Are we attracted to our own type?
Personally- no. I think I know 3 other ISTP females. And we get on well as friends, and I like them but I just don't fancy them.
In my group of lesbian friends we have this thing called "lions and lambs". Everyone is either a lion or a lamb. Lions are strong, predatory, aloof thinker types. Lambs are everyone else. Lions can sleep with lambs and lambs can sleep with lambs but a lion never fancies another lion.
All the ISTPs I know are lions. (obviously lions come in other types. Always Ts though) And it is true. A lion never fancies another lion.
 

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Wow, that is sad. And to think I once thought it was a mutual attraction... ):

Sorry don't take my opinion as the word of all ISTPs. It is quite possible I do fancy ENFPs, I just am not that great at typing people. I'm working on it amongst my friends. Pretty much everyone I fancy is an F at least so maybe! I really can't think of any ENFPs that I know. But maybe they just don't hang out at rugby pitches or sex parties and they don't work in security.

Although they should be at sex parties right? Or is that the ESFPs?
 

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In my group of lesbian friends we have this thing called "lions and lambs". Everyone is either a lion or a lamb. Lions are strong, predatory, aloof thinker types. Lambs are everyone else. Lions can sleep with lambs and lambs can sleep with lambs but a lion never fancies another lion.
All the ISTPs I know are lions. (obviously lions come in other types. Always Ts though) And it is true. A lion never fancies another lion.

So, following your friends theory, there's no such thing as T x T relationships? Or, better saying, no lion X lion relationship?

Sorry don't take my opinion as the word of all ISTPs. It is quite possible I do fancy ENFPs, I just am not that great at typing people. I'm working on it amongst my friends. Pretty much everyone I fancy is an F at least so maybe! I really can't think of any ENFPs that I know. But maybe they just don't hang out at rugby pitches or sex parties and they don't work in security.

Although they should be at sex parties right? Or is that the ESFPs?

Nah, I don't have this thing for sports, and great part of ENFPs I know don't either. But sex parties? Oh yes.
 

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So, following your friends theory, there's no such thing as T x T relationships? Or, better saying, no lion X lion relationship?



Nah, I don't have this thing for sports, and great part of ENFPs I know don't either. But sex parties? Oh yes.

No I'm not saying that all Ts are lions. But all lions are Ts. If that makes sense. I know Ts who are lambs. But I can't think of any Fs who are lions. Although I guess it could happen. Not sure if they would have the necessary emotional detachment.

That must be why I can't think of any ENFPs then. They aren't into sports and in a sex party situation I'm massively distracted.
 

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But sex parties? Oh yes.

Really? Haha, i have never been to a sex party. I nearly once went to a cunnalingus workshop... but in the end i was too prude.
And [MENTION=5111]lauranna[/MENTION] i don't fit into either Lion or Lamb catagory... prehaps that was where i was going wrong with tha ladies, haha. I'm prob closer to a feral cat/bowhead whale.:unsure:
 

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Really? Haha, i have never been to a sex party. I nearly once went to a cunnalingus workshop... but in the end i was too prude.
And [MENTION=5111]lauranna[/MENTION] i don't fit into either Lion or Lamb catagory... prehaps that was where i was going wrong with tha ladies, haha. I'm prob closer to a feral cat/bowhead whale.:unsure:

Haha I guess it varies from ENFP to ENFP. I personally like it.

And yes, categorize everyone as lions and lambs is a little too limiting. I know it's more like a superficial generalization of you and your friends, but yea. And being categorized as a lamb is not cool D:
 

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Okay, so short patience with people they don't like, eh? Now that you've said it, it makes sense, this does seems like an ISTP attitude. Anyway, I guess I'll have to change my attitude toward two ISTP girls I'm interested.

I don't really know Socionics x MBTI differences. It's not reliable, then? I mean, their compatibility system. I really like to base myself in that.

well you shouldn't base yourself in anything, but take in to account that these preferences or weaknesses are what you'll be dealing with when with different types, as individuals, and go from there

I mean I thought I was ENFP and they were best with INTJs. Well what I learned is that Im not compatible with INTJs, I mean really not, I clash badly with immature INTJs, and while I can admire some of the more mature ones, I honestly think that Im more compatible with SJs and maybe some STPs. I may be compatible with a few ENTJs who are grounded with some awesome Se, Ive noticed I actually prefer ENTJs to INTJs.

NFs drive me nuts, I met this guy who is all romantic talk, and he started singing to me on the phone and I almost hung up on him, but I just rolled my eyes. He also says stupid crap like we owe it to ourselves to get to know each other better, and dude, I met him ONCE. Not even Internet flirtation. Like literally don't know him. Pretty sure he's ENFJ or ENFP and I want to run far far away screaming. Big turn off.

But apparently I get along with NF wimmin just dandy. Just can't care for the men, they put me off.

So go by your own knowledge of both real people and theory. Don't oversimplify it, learn more about personality theory before you try to tie yourself down to be destined to be with a particular type. Really.
 

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Haha I guess it varies from ENFP to ENFP. I personally like it.

And yes, categorize everyone as lions and lambs is a little too limiting. I know it's more like a superficial generalization of you and your friends, but yea. And being categorized as a lamb is not cool D:

Yeah it's just a jokey thing we have. It's not scientific. The lambs are never happy about being categorised as Lambs, and some of them don't resemble lambs in any other aspect of their lives, just in a sex/ relationships aspect. It is funny to watch the dynamics. The lions seduce the lambs and the poor little lambs end up with their hearts broken.

[MENTION=9160]HelenOfTroy[/MENTION] if you are not a lion, then you are a lamb. There are two categories and those are the rules. No negotiation of other animals allowed!
 

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Yeah it's just a jokey thing we have. It's not scientific. The lambs are never happy about being categorised as Lambs, and some of them don't resemble lambs in any other aspect of their lives, just in a sex/ relationships aspect. It is funny to watch the dynamics. The lions seduce the lambs and the poor little lambs end up with their hearts broken.

[MENTION=9160]HelenOfTroy[/MENTION] if you are not a lion, then you are a lamb. There are two categories and those are the rules. No negotiation of other animals allowed!

I assume this is based on Gordon Gekko's, "Shark or sheep" theory?
 

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Yeah I though t it was ESFPs, not ENFPs, that are supposed to be easy. And I think that one Duck of Death dude knows too many ENFPs, some are probably xSFPs. Ive seen both ESFP and ISFP confused with ENFP for various reasons.

They probably are, I don't know. I don't bother asking.
But I refer to them as such.
It's a confidence builder.
 

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Oh, ENFP's are easy. They like to say, "Oh, my. I've never done this before..." Don't believe them. ;)

I've found ENFP's to like it rough a lot of the time actually. It's pretty interesting to watch.
 

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well you shouldn't base yourself in anything, but take in to account that these preferences or weaknesses are what you'll be dealing with when with different types, as individuals, and go from there

I mean I thought I was ENFP and they were best with INTJs. Well what I learned is that Im not compatible with INTJs, I mean really not, I clash badly with immature INTJs, and while I can admire some of the more mature ones, I honestly think that Im more compatible with SJs and maybe some STPs. I may be compatible with a few ENTJs who are grounded with some awesome Se, Ive noticed I actually prefer ENTJs to INTJs.

NFs drive me nuts, I met this guy who is all romantic talk, and he started singing to me on the phone and I almost hung up on him, but I just rolled my eyes. He also says stupid crap like we owe it to ourselves to get to know each other better, and dude, I met him ONCE. Not even Internet flirtation. Like literally don't know him. Pretty sure he's ENFJ or ENFP and I want to run far far away screaming. Big turn off.

But apparently I get along with NF wimmin just dandy. Just can't care for the men, they put me off.

So go by your own knowledge of both real people and theory. Don't oversimplify it, learn more about personality theory before you try to tie yourself down to be destined to be with a particular type. Really.

Yea, I read out there INTJs are meant to be with ENFPs, and I can't understand that. Whether they are mature or not, I'm simply allergic to INTJs. Actually, I tend to repel any TJ combination. And yes, NFs can be quite romantic, with this lame stuff of singing on the phone etc. I'm not of this kind. Actually, this seems more like a ENFJ and the "does whatever it takes to conquer you" thing, but it's ENFP like, as well. I even feel ashamed when I see people doing this, like, I get embarassed in their behalf.


Yeah it's just a jokey thing we have. It's not scientific. The lambs are never happy about being categorised as Lambs, and some of them don't resemble lambs in any other aspect of their lives, just in a sex/ relationships aspect. It is funny to watch the dynamics. The lions seduce the lambs and the poor little lambs end up with their hearts broken.

Haha, yes, Like in the wild, the stronger always comes on top. It's a simplistic view, but it is sadly true.
 

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I've found ENFP's to like it rough a lot of the time actually. It's pretty interesting to watch.

That would explain a lot actually. For a couple years, in my early twenties, I was into BDSM. Not into it much anymore. I've taken what I've liked from it and that ENFP certainly was intrigued by it when the subject was brought up. She pretty much was no real challenge after that. But yeah. The sex was very good.
 
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