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[SJ] Top 3 reasons for why SJs suck...

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I actually do that a fair amount in person. "To quote/paraphrase Marx/William F. Buckley, Jr./Paul Westerberg. . ." ;)

meh, you could easily be right. i've only read a few of your posts. i remember one in particular that made me think N, though. i'll let you know if i find it.

also, i wouldn't have posted anything at all had it not been for Night. i trust his instinct.
 

pure_mercury

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meh, you could easily be right. i've only read a few of your posts. i remember one in particular that made me think N, though. i'll let you know if i find it.

also, i wouldn't have posted anything at all had it not been for Night. i trust his instinct.

IIRC, when I took whichever test it was, I was a very expressed extrovert, low expressed sensing, moderately expressed Feeling and Judging. I think the E was like 89%, F and J in the 30s, and S was 10 or 12. So ENFJ may be close, as well. I think that the E and the J are probably the surest bets, but that may also be that those traits (E vs. I, and P vs. J) seem most readily apparent in people for me.
 

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IIRC, when I took whichever test it was, I was a very expressed extrovert, low expressed sensing, moderately expressed Feeling and Judging. I think the E was like 89%, F and J in the 30s, and S was 10 or 12. So ENFJ may be close, as well. I think that the E and the J are probably the surest bets, but that may also be that those traits (E vs. I, and P vs. J) seem most readily apparent in people for me.

oh. you got your score from an online test? most of those are extremely inaccurate, especially if your scores are somewhere near the middle.

try this one, it's probably the best one on the net (maybe 50-60% accuracy?)

Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes
 

Night

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Your language reminds me favorably of my father - also an ENFP.
 

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Man. I did not know people felt so strongly about SJs.

It bothers me a little how so few SJs replied to this thread......

If this were about INTJ's I'm sure they'd be all in our faces (so to speak) about how they are so much smarter and can manipulate anything or anyone because they will one day rule the world. ...Oh wait excuse me.... how they ALREADY rule the world just by being alive. .....probably followed by thinking "I hope no one can tell I'm really insecure"
 

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Man. I did not know people felt so strongly about SJs.

It bothers me a little how so few SJs replied to this thread......

If this were about INTJ's I'm sure they'd be all in our faces (so to speak) about how they are so much smarter and can manipulate anything or anyone because they will one day rule the world. ...Oh wait excuse me.... how they ALREADY rule the world just by being alive. .....probably followed by thinking "I hope no one can tell I'm really insecure"

As an ESFJ, I WANT to like everyone. God forbid you really cross me or someone I care about, though.
 

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They're the ones who make me get up so early. :sleeping::mad::censored:
 

Haphazard

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Man. I did not know people felt so strongly about SJs.

It bothers me a little how so few SJs replied to this thread......

If this were about INTJ's I'm sure they'd be all in our faces (so to speak) about how they are so much smarter and can manipulate anything or anyone because they will one day rule the world. ...Oh wait excuse me.... how they ALREADY rule the world just by being alive. .....probably followed by thinking "I hope no one can tell I'm really insecure"

Dude, Have you even SEEN the INTJ hate thread?

And I quote, "Having a thread about hating INTJs is like talking about self harm to people who enjoy it."

They're the ones who make me get up so early. :sleeping::mad::censored:

Yeah. I think that's my only big problem with SJs. So what if I want to sleep until 3 PM?
 

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Yeah. I think that's my only big problem with SJs. So what if I want to sleep until 3 PM?

The cool thing is that the NTs made it more bearable by designing fast-food breakfast drive-thrus. Of course, the bad part about that is it's probly what made us fat. Quick and easy access to McGriddles is a dangerous thing for SPs. :laugh:
 

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Yeah. I think that's my only big problem with SJs. So what if I want to sleep until 3 PM?

I am an SJ who likes to get a lot of sleep in, too. I need it, because I am busy pretty much the entire time I am awake. I actually was just telling my friend the other day that I need a treadmill with a speakerphone built into it, and he called me a lunatic.
 

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They're the ones who make me get up so early. :sleeping::mad::censored:

Hahahaha. I'm an INFJ and I do that! My ISFJ boyfriend does too, so it works because we both hate to waste a day - especially if it's really nice outside.

On the rare occasion one of us sleeps in, the other gets really antsy.
 

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My last date was ISFJ - two hours out of my life I could have spent elsewhere - I could have even cleaned my bedroom.
Boring, conventional and no backbone. Actually no bones at all. And so GUARDED!
In a way it was like being stuck in a library for a month but being unable to read any of the books.
Not for me.
 

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Did Uberfurher get banned cause he hated SJ's?
 

Little Linguist

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Awww, you guys don't phase me - I generally win you all over anyway and help you to take that great, big giant tree out of your ass. :devil::party2:
 

Siúil a Rúin

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My last date was ISFJ - two hours out of my life I could have spent elsewhere - I could have even cleaned my bedroom.
Boring, conventional and no backbone. Actually no bones at all. And so GUARDED!
Wow. In a weird way that actually sounds like a rather interesting date with unique potential of sorts. OH MY!

In a way it was like being stuck in a library for a month but being unable to read any of the books.
Not for me.
To be fair, it isn't so easy getting off the floor to reach a book when you don't have any bones.

SJs aren't terribly understood in these parts. It is especially important to have more SJs posting on these boards to help balance the perspective. ISFJs are known to have analytic abilities from their tertiary Ti, and a impish sense of humor. People create stereotypes of each type and then project those onto people when they meet them whether or not that person ever took an MBTI test - let alone a professional one.
 
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