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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorance is hate View Post
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    What would it take to convince you of the validity of the established data, that most of us can agree is valid, on this forum?

    Your attempts to debate, thus far, have come across as trolling, because your personal-experience-reliance is basically a brick wall that no one can get past. Forums are for engagement and dialogue, and while you have been trying very hard to engage and create dialogue, your efforts have been counterproductive. Dialogue, after all, is a two-way street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    What would it take to convince you of the validity of the established data, that most of us can agree is valid, on this forum?

    Your attempts to debate, thus far, have come across as trolling, because your personal-experience-reliance is basically a brick wall that no one can get past. Forums are for engagement and dialogue, and while you have been trying very hard to engage and create dialogue, your efforts have been counterproductive. Dialogue, after all, is a two-way street.
    Yea, I guess you're right. Maybe....

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    Is the bad man gone yet, is it safe to post again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
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    I'm so tired of Fe being conflated with enneagram 2. That's why I don't ever relate to stupid descriptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    I'm so tired of Fe being conflated with enneagram 2. That's why I don't ever relate to stupid descriptions
    Hmm, I just read about enneagram 2 and it seems a pretty good fit for dominant or secondary Fe users. What are your qualms with the association between Fe and enneagram 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorance is hate View Post
    Hmm, I just read about enneagram 2 and it seems a pretty good fit for dominant or secondary Fe users. What are your qualms with the association between Fe and enneagram 2?
    I don't have a 2 in my tritype and I'm an Fe aux so Fe descriptions are much too 2-y for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    I don't have a 2 in my tritype and I'm an Fe aux so Fe descriptions are much too 2-y for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    I'm so tired of Fe being conflated with enneagram 2. That's why I don't ever relate to stupid descriptions
    Yeah, I don't know of I really am ISFJ or not. But I've definitely come to see a side that relates to Fe, yet has nothing to do with a desire to help and give back to the world. I've been so resistant to the idea of being an ISFJ mostly due to this concept that is nothing like me.

    Some of my family members would probably place me as a thinker because I do appear to be at first glance. I am not at all nor have I ever been affectionate. I do not radiate warmth and love (though I still do feel them). I am not emotionally expressive or affectionate.

    Yet I have come to recognize that my feeling side doesn't need to be gushy in order to be my aux or dom function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by /DG/ View Post
    Yeah, I don't know of I really am ISFJ or not. But I've definitely come to see a side that relates to Fe, yet has nothing to do with a desire to help and give back to the world. I've been so resistant to the idea of being an ISFJ mostly due to this concept that is nothing like me.

    Some of my family members would probably place me as a thinker because I do appear to be at first glance. I am not at all nor have I ever been affectionate. I do not radiate warmth and love (though I still do feel them). I am not emotionally expressive or affectionate.

    Yet I have come to recognize that my feeling side doesn't need to be gushy in order to be my aux or dom function.
    Same @ the bolded. I actually think my Fe is pretty shitty and doubt it even exists sometimes but I've talked to some people and apparently I Fe a lot more than I think I do. To the point that it's kinda weird that I don't even notice it. Warm and affectionate are definitely not words I'd use to describe myself. I'd say I'm generally friendly though. I can get along with anyone as long as they're nice to me.
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