[ESFJ] Are All ESFJs Like This?

[miss fortune]

*looks innocent* I tried to help you out, man, but you probably couldn't pick out my bluntly laid out ESTP style deal with this person plan. Sure I criticized you, but what did you expect? Me being helpful without getting a little fun out of the deal?

:yim_rolling_on_the_

 

[Wandering]

This still doesn't make the person raising it look good.

Either they know of the fault, in which case their comparison is intellectually dishonest.

Or they don't, in which case there is no irony, just stupidity.

You short-sighted T. What matters is not the how of the comparison, but the why. Not the form, but the purpose.

 

[MacGuffin]

You short-sighted T. What matters is not the how of the comparison, but the why. Not the form, but the purpose.

That is exactly what I was talking about.

 

[Ivy]

This is exactly what I meant when I said we should be safe but not comfortable! Everyone has soundly spanked the OP for contributing to an atmosphere that would feel unsafe for an ESFJ, while still attempting to guard the safety of the OP, but not shying away from challenging the attitudes he brought to the table.

Bravo, folks!

 

[Gabe]

This still doesn't make the person raising it look good.

Either they know of the fault, in which case their comparison is intellectually dishonest.

Or they don't, in which case there is no irony, just stupidity.

Blow it out your ass. honestly.

I brought up the analogy becuase the original comment was bigoted: it wasn't saying anything based on type preferences, it was just based on prejudice. (I'm starting to get tired of bringing that up, and other people have said this, so I'm probably being redundant by now). It wasn't meant to fit with every piece, it was meant to point out the bigotry of it. If you try to reverse engineer my comment to prove it wrong, you're being a bonehead.

 

[FFF]

*looks innocent* I tried to help you out, man, but you probably couldn't pick out my bluntly laid out ESTP style deal with this person plan. Sure I criticized you, but what did you expect? Me being helpful without getting a little fun out of the deal?

:yim_rolling_on_the_

It's okay. You can criticize INTPs. As I said before in a thread long, long ago: INTPs are machines. We do not feel pain. We only create pain.

 

[FFF]

This is exactly what I meant when I said we should be safe but not comfortable! Everyone has soundly spanked the OP for contributing to an atmosphere that would feel unsafe for an ESFJ, while still attempting to guard the safety of the OP, but not shying away from challenging the attitudes he brought to the table.

Bravo, folks!

To my knowledge, ESFJs don't come here, and if they do, they don't stay long or participate much. I assume just the focus on theory is an atmosphere that makes them feel unsafe.

 

[MacGuffin]

Blow it out your ass. honestly.

I brought up the analogy becuase the original comment was bigoted: it wasn't saying anything based on type preferences, it was just based on prejudice. (I'm starting to get tired of bringing that up, and other people have said this, so I'm probably being redundant by now). It wasn't meant to fit with every piece, it was meant to point out the bigotry of it. If you try to reverse engineer my comment to prove it wrong, you're being a bonehead.

Ah, I see. You weren't trying for an intellectual argument at all.

This was instead good ol' Feeler manipulation.

You compare the poster's stance to that of a RACIST. And since in these times no one (except fringe people) want to be a RACIST, he should modify his views to be in line with yours.

Bravo.

(And if you can't see what I am talking about, yeah, you probably aren't a T that has to deal with this on a continual basis.)

 

[proteanmix]

It's okay. You can criticize INTPs. As I said before in a thread long, long ago: INTPs are machines. We do not feel pain. We only create pain.

Well, according to you, the ESFJ is the Bliss Ninny and you've been reduced to venting/getting spanked on an internet forum. How easy it would've been to say "Awww !"

Anyways, I feel like my chain is getting jerked now and I'm over it. I don't feel chastised for anything cause nothing (from my lowly EFJ perspective) has been said that is wrong.

You're not going to be cast outside the city gates so don't worry.

 

[FFF]

Is it too late to talk about the frequency of judgement manipulation amongst ESFJs?

Judgement manipulation is when a person wants you to do something, and speaks a negative judgement about you if you don't agree.

 

[Gabe]

Almost all of my internet posting is on xanga where one-sided versions of events are okay. Hey, moderator, why don't you transfer this post to the blog section? Nevermind, it's too late.

what is xanga?
Anyway, despite all the stuff, it's really not that big of a deal. This kind of stuff just happened over and over again on this site, and eventually you bore the brunt of peoples frustration instead of someone, like... Blackwater, who would deserve it a lot more.

 

[FFF]

Well, according to you, the ESFJ is the Bliss Ninny and you've been reduced to venting/getting spanked on an internet forum. How easy it would've been to say "Awww !"

Anyways, I feel like my chain is getting jerked now and I'm over it. I don't feel chastised for anything cause nothing (from my lowly EFJ perspective) has been said that is wrong.

You're not going to be cast outside the city gates so don't worry.

I wasn't venting. I was complaining... umm, big difference.

 

[FFF]

what is xanga?
Anyway, despite all the stuff, it's really not that big of a deal. This kind of stuff just happened over and over again on this site, and eventually you bore the brunt of peoples frustration instead of someone, like... Blackwater, who would deserve it a lot more.

Xanga is like LiveJournal or Blogger. Just a blog site.

 

[Domino]

Except this is an MBTI forum.

Must T types point out the obvious?

Wandering, I'll hold him down for you.

 

[proteanmix]

I wasn't venting. I was complaining... umm, big difference.

What about the getting spanked part? That do anything for you?

 

[Ivy]

To my knowledge, ESFJs don't come here, and if they do, they don't stay long or participate much. I assume just the focus on theory is an atmosphere that makes them feel unsafe.

We have had a few. They have not been made to feel very welcome in the past. I think they would have stayed otherwise.

 

[substitute]

To my knowledge, ESFJs don't come here, and if they do, they don't stay long or participate much. I assume just the focus on theory is an atmosphere that makes them feel unsafe.

I would've thought a combination of them usually having other things to do like being more likely to have a RL, and plenty of RL people to talk with and share with, together with the negative treatment they get by the large number of INTP's here... would have more to do with it. I think the first point may be the case with extraverts in general...

Of course I'm aware of the irony of what I'm saying there... lol

 

[Domino]

What about the getting spanked part? That do anything for you?

AHAHAHAHAHAHhahahaha,... hahaha... heh *ahem*



heeeheeeheehehehehehe

 

[FFF]

What about the getting spanked part? That do anything for you?

I was spanked? I didn't realize.

 

[substitute]

You know, for the life of me, I cannot imagine why INTP-ness is so often correlated with Asperger's Syndrome... I can see why INTP's get so annoyed about it