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[MBTI General] ISTJs Explained By ISTJs: Post your questions here!

Cimarron

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Are ISTJs really as boring as they appear?
(Not bagging on you, but) Isn't that kind of hard to answer from one's own perspective? It's like asking the question, "Do you think you're modest?"

It's for others to determine, not myself.
 

Lady_X

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(Not bagging on you, but) Isn't that kind of hard to answer from one's own perspective? It's like asking the question, "Do you think you're modest?"

It's for others to determine, not myself.

wow what a nice mature answer. :)
 

raz

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wow what a nice mature answer. :)

Mature? His response is so isolated. One ISTJ's opinion of how they're interpreted. Saying someone is boring is subjective, based on each person's individual perception of the world and their own personal preferences. Do you really think anyone is in the place to make a blanket statement that one type is boring? It's too subjective.

It's like saying the loudest group voting on something is better off listening to, even if they have a lesser amount of people, just because you hear them more often than the quantity of the other group.
 

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You ISTJs are really cool people; but my only complaint about this thread is that there aren't any female ISTJs answering anything.
 

Lady_X

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Mature? His response is so isolated. One ISTJ's opinion of how they're interpreted. Saying someone is boring is subjective, based on each person's individual perception of the world and their own personal preferences. Do you really think anyone is in the place to make a blanket statement that one type is boring? It's too subjective.

It's like saying the loudest group voting on something is better off listening to, even if they have a lesser amount of people, just because you hear them more often than the quantity of the other group.

Not the point..he could've responded to the question in an equally rude way but imo took the higher road. Just sayin I thought it was cool.
 

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(Not bagging on you, but) Isn't that kind of hard to answer from one's own perspective? It's like asking the question, "Do you think you're modest?"

It's for others to determine, not myself.
No, I can answer that question -- I am 100% not modest; and I don't know an ExTP that is.
 

Just another ISTJ

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I do...but I'm not as strong on the J side of things as I used to be.

Everything that needs to be done gets completed eventually, but in the meantime, I'm going to occupy myself with something else, which will then be superceded by another thing...

Hello ISTJs.

Do you procrastinate a lot?
 

IZthe411

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Hello ISTJs.

Do you procrastinate a lot?

To a fault.

I hate it, but my BEST work is done that way.

And as the genius is cranking out, I'm saying to myself that next time I'm going to pace myself. Hasn't happened yet.
 

raz

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I procrastinate. But I do it deliberately. Like, "I can put this off until next week."
 

uumlau

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To a fault.

I hate it, but my BEST work is done that way.

And as the genius is cranking out, I'm saying to myself that next time I'm going to pace myself. Hasn't happened yet.

I procrastinate. But I do it deliberately. Like, "I can put this off until next week."

I think the P vs J stereotypes are most difficult to deal with, here.

I personally believe it takes a while for the "J" part of anyone to appear in a discernible way. Children do not start out disciplined and organized. As one gains responsibility, it takes a while to understand how to manage it. While a J is learning to manage responsibilities, the J will still appear to be mostly P. Even after that, a J will "feel disorganized," even when they aren't in comparison to most others.

Part of it is that it isn't about how organized one is, or how much one procrastinates, but rather how one sets priorities. No matter how much a J procrastinates, the J will usually finish the task on time. The J feels a responsibility to be done on time. It is possible that one could say that someone who never procrastinates is "very J," but that doesn't mean much in MBTI terms; it just makes one's type in that regard more definite.

That said, I've been meaning to start a procrastination club, but I never quite seem to get around to it.
 

raz

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I think the P vs J stereotypes are most difficult to deal with, here.

I personally believe it takes a while for the "J" part of anyone to appear in a discernible way. Children do not start out disciplined and organized. As one gains responsibility, it takes a while to understand how to manage it. While a J is learning to manage responsibilities, the J will still appear to be mostly P. Even after that, a J will "feel disorganized," even when they aren't in comparison to most others.

Part of it is that it isn't about how organized one is, or how much one procrastinates, but rather how one sets priorities. No matter how much a J procrastinates, the J will usually finish the task on time. The J feels a responsibility to be done on time. It is possible that one could say that someone who never procrastinates is "very J," but that doesn't mean much in MBTI terms; it just makes one's type in that regard more definite.

That said, I've been meaning to start a procrastination club, but I never quite seem to get around to it.

Exactly. Fucking finally. That part is so on the money that it deserved to be bolded, italicized and underlined. Judgment does not equal stereotypical organization. Judgment means setting outward priorities and adhering to responsibilities. Get inside my head and watch me following the things most important to me, and you'll see the J full force. Take a look at my desk, which I don't give a fuck about, and it's a MESS.
 

Craft

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Exactly. Fucking finally. That part is so on the money that it deserved to be bolded, italicized and underlined. Judgment does not equal stereotypical organization. Judgment means setting outward priorities and adhering to responsibilities. Get inside my head and watch me following the things most important to me, and you'll see the J full force. Take a look at my desk, which I don't give a fuck about, and it's a MESS.

So what does this say about perceivers? They don't adhere to responsibilities and they don't set priorities? What's the difference of their priorities?
 

uumlau

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So what does this say about perceivers? They don't adhere to responsibilities and they don't set priorities?

They have priorities, but the priorities are more and more not aimed at meeting other's expectations, the more P one is. It's a matter of degree. Very few people are extremely J or extremely P.
 
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