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[INTP] Developing Fe

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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That's Ne/Si, though. Gauging what others want and internalizing the experience for future use. For it to be Fe, you have to ground the outlook from a collective vantage point.

But it's not a matter of just internalizing the POV, or thinking about how you might hypothetically feel if that were you. It's actually feeling that. I mean, how can you have a collective vantage point if you're only dealing with one other person, anyway?
 

raskol

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But it's not a matter of just internalizing the POV, or thinking about how you might hypothetically feel if that were you. It's actually feeling that. I mean, how can you have a collective vantage point if you're only dealing with one other person, anyway?
It's a thought process, so it doesn't necessitate actual interaction. The outlook is key: we (collective) as opposed to I (individual).

As an INTP, you're on the Ti/Fe axis (I think/we feel), while Fe is your least conscious function; in other words, activating Fe takes you outside of your comfort zone. What you described above, though, gauging what others want and internalizing the experience for future use (Ne/Si), is the equivalent of staying safely within your comfort zone.
 

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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It's a thought process, so it doesn't necessitate actual interaction. The outlook is key: we (collective) as opposed to I (individual).

As an INTP, you're on the Ti/Fe axis (I think/we feel), while Fe is your least conscious function; in other words, activating Fe takes you outside of your comfort zone. What you described above, though, gauging what others want and internalizing the experience for future use (Ne/Si), is the equivalent of staying safely within your comfort zone.

It's new, though.
 

Yuurei

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Is that really Fe, though, or are you emulating it using your preferred functions?

Why would you assume that?
(And to answer: Probably not. I could not falsify anything if I tried.)
 

Coriolis

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Why would you assume that?
(And to answer: Probably not. I could not falsify anything if I tried.)
I don't assume anything, I ask. Fe is toward the bottom of the stack for both of us. I know when I do things that look like Fe, they are really just an emulation, so wondered if it worked that way for you also.
 

Yuurei

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I don't assume anything, I ask. Fe is toward the bottom of the stack for both of us. I know when I do things that look like Fe, they are really just an emulation, so wondered if it worked that way for you also.

Hm. that's a fair question. I'm not offended by it I guess I just don't know how to tell if I am emulating or not.

It's also possible that I have learned out of necessity as everyone else in my family is Fi/Fe.
 

Coriolis

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Hm. that's a fair question. I'm not offended by it I guess I just don't know how to tell if I am emulating or not.

It's also possible that I have learned out of necessity as everyone else in my family is Fi/Fe.
But see - for those of us who don't have Fe preference, we learn to cope with such situations by using the preferences/functions we do have in such a way that they give the desired result. That is why it can be hard to tell the two apart. I would start by asking why you act in Fe- like ways in specific situations. For me, it is nearly always because by doing so, I will have an easier time getting something done that is important to me. That is nothing more than Te (effectiveness/efficiency) in the service of personal goals/values (Ni/Fi), with some systematized (Te) observations (Se) thrown in to support it.
 
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