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    Quote Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post
    I guess I get to go into the same box as @Mal+, since people all call us either ISTPs, INTPs, or INTJs, but there's no dang universal constant for who wants us! This whole Ni Vs. Ne is too freaking complex! And even if it's Ni and not Ne, is it dominant or tertiary Ni? Gosh so many contingencies!

    Well, I guess maybe Ne is more connective, and Ni more penetrating, but idk.
    Ti seems more logical, and Te more constructive.
    Se could be more contextual, and Si more referential.
    Oh boy, this is such a fun puzzle!

    I just don't think either of you are Ti doms. You don't explain yourself like Ti doms. I don't see things I can logically follow. That doesn't mean I need to agree with them... I just have to be able to logically follow them to a point. It has to make sense under the right lens.

    A good test to see if you are a Ti dom is if you have discomfort with things you can't make sense of, especially in your youth. Does making sense of things make you happy? Or do you not necessarily need something to make sense? It seems like you're comfortable with an idea just "being". INTPs find this very very difficult. ISTPs, too.

    You both make sense more as Ni doms with less developed Te.
    The gloves are off...
    The wisdom teeth fell out...
    What you on about?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post
    I guess I get to go into the same box as @Mal+, since people all call us either ISTPs, INTPs, or INTJs, but there's no dang universal constant for who wants us! This whole Ni Vs. Ne is too freaking complex! And even if it's Ni and not Ne, is it dominant or tertiary Ni? Gosh so many contingencies!

    Well, I guess maybe Ne is more connective, and Ni more penetrating, but idk.
    Ti seems more logical, and Te more constructive.
    Se could be more contextual, and Si more referential.
    Oh boy, this is such a fun puzzle!
    My wife can tell you which type is more penetrating.
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Don't try to pawn him off on us.

    I assure you, we don't want him.
    There's that word, again - "we."
    Seriously, do you think in terms of "we" as opposed to "I"?
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    There's that word, again - "we."
    Seriously, do you think in terms of "we" as opposed to "I"?
    I think in many different ways, Jag.

    The post I responded to referred to a group.

    And, as such, I made a (mostly) joke referring to that group.

    A deeper question would be, why does that apparently bother you?

    And if your answer is gunna be some of your stock bullshit about thinking for yourself, you can save it.

    I'm about as independent a thinker as it gets without slipping into some stupid solipsistic worldview.
    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'm about as independent a thinker as it gets
    You'd like to be.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You'd like to be.
    I said "as it gets without slipping into some stupid solipsistic worldview".

    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I just don't think either of you are Ti doms. You don't explain yourself like Ti doms. I don't see things I can logically follow. That doesn't mean I need to agree with them... I just have to be able to logically follow them to a point. It has to make sense under the right lens.

    A good test to see if you are a Ti dom is if you have discomfort with things you can't make sense of, especially in your youth. Does making sense of things make you happy? Or do you not necessarily need something to make sense? It seems like you're comfortable with an idea just "being". INTPs find this very very difficult. ISTPs, too.

    You both make sense more as Ni doms with less developed Te.
    Ah shucks, I've been outed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I said "as it gets without slipping into some stupid solipsistic worldview".

    I see you calmed down. Your other post made me wonder if someone broke into your house this morning and took a shit in your bowl of Cheerios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Ah shucks, I've been outed.
    When did you first find out you were INTJ? Apparently, some people know as early as age 5.
    The gloves are off...
    The wisdom teeth fell out...
    What you on about?





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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    When did you first find out you were INTJ? Apparently, some people know as early as age 5.
    @Zarathustra convinced me a long time ago here.
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