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[NT] Who are more "robotic": INTJs or INTPs?

Who is more "robotic": INTJs or INTPs?


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RaptorWizard

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I say screw the functions and just admit that any type that is intutive is not like a computer because intuitives go by hunches and gut feelings rather than evidence and data like a computer, a feeling type cannot be a robot because robots are non-sentient cold and calculating creatures, a perceiving type cannot be a robot because robots follow a strict set of programming and cannot act spontaneously outside the deliberate constraints of the rules, and an extraverted type cannot be a robot because robots have no need for outward stimulation since they are forced into action solely by the codification data.

What type are robots then?
 

Fluffywolf

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RaptorWizard

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Thalassa

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I think what goes on with IxTJs, in general (both N and S) is that they are protective of their Fi, or may not even KNOW HOW to express their Fi. I am close (or was close) to an ISTJ who really has trouble with expressing his inner feelings, like getting embarrassed, or being unable to articulate what he's feeling via words, or just not expressing his feelings until it's "too late" as he says...and the only reason, I think, I even know all this is because we communicated so extensively in text, so he could feel more comfortable, I guess, being open with me by writing things out.

Also, sometimes Si types might look like they are robotic because they are happy with an Si routine, or like they don't feel they owe you a justification, because sometimes they may not realize think that what their Si sees as "just right" isn't necessarily obvious to everyone else's sensory perception. For example, one time my ESFJ ex was outraged that I didn't understand that white washcloths are meant for wiping down the sink, not for bathing, until later he realized this was some Fe/Si association he had (we didn't call it that at the time, I didn't know about Jung) but it was so ingrained into him by his xSTJ mother that white washcloths served that function, I think he actually may have panicked or wasn't even thinking that I might have a different usage for white wash cloths. Of course this is an extreme example, but it happens sometimes with Si types.

Just like sometimes Fi types just expect you to know that something was wrong or hurt their feelings, and you are horrible for not seeing it.
 

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Anyone else enjoying the enactment of the differences between INTJs and INTPs?
 

greenfairy

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Not if you weight the functions with a coefficient for what % of cognition they tend to take up.

True, so are you specifically and exclusively referring to thought process, which you are saying would be Ti dom being more robotic? Or are we including decision making? I was trying to say cognition as I understood it and as it was relevant to the robot analogy was either Ne+Ti (input--> system --> output) vs. Ni+Te (input--> system --> output). My argument is that robots don't really have an internal thought process or cognition; they just do as they are told, i.e. default to Te. So INTJ is the only option for robotic by that logic. True I'm kind of approaching it backwards- is a robot more like INTP or INTJ- but I just don't think it makes sense otherwise unless you are using different definitions of terms.

As you already said, it depends on how you frame it.

As Fluffywolf said, the intention of the OP was for the internal frame of reference.

However, it would not be accurate to say that I did not want to spur a discussion touching on the various frames of reference.


I argue that only one definition of terms makes sense.
 

raindancing

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Thanks for the vote of confidence [MENTION=4877]Kaizer[/MENTION], but I'm with andante. :)

Neither are robotic. INTJs lean towards being E-mo and INTPs, calm.
 

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What is the MBTI type of that beeping garbage can in Star Wars? That's a robots robot.
 

Thalassa

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What is the MBTI type of that beeping garbage can in Star Wars? That's a robots robot.

I think C3PO and R2D2 are both feelers, maybe.

C3PO is some kind of FJ...I have to think about R2D2. He doesn't even speak.
 

Zarathustra

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I think what goes on with IxTJs, in general (both N and S) is that they are protective of their Fi...

I'm not that big a fan of this construction.

I think it points to something true, but I think it overemphasizes the role of Fi (coincidence you usually hear FPs saying it?)

It's like saying that what goes on with SPs is that they are protective (or some other analogous term) of their Ni.

Edit: :thinking:

Edit2: Hmm... could that be true?

Edit3: Let's not talk about this here; it's totally unrelated to the thread topic.
 

Eugene Watson VIII

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INTP wins. INTPs are the purest pure thinkers so are the closest to actually being AI.

:shrug:
 

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INTP wins. INTPs are the purest pure thinkers so are the closest to actually being AI.

:shrug:
One day AI will hack the Universal Supercomputer, destroying old laws and programming new laws into the Existential Game.
 

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Surprised with the higher INTJ vote. I would not say they are robotic but I think they are incredibly private. Once you're in, you're in (unless you do something to cross the line). And they seem to be more willing to deal with the ups and downs of a relationship once committed. Just taking ups and downs as a part of it all and not freezing up like I have seen INTPs doing. INTPs can initially appear to be warm but when that Ne/Fe goes...it's pretty much like what [MENTION=13402]Saturned[/MENTION] said.
 

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INTPs program the computer which controls the functions of the INTJ robots.
 

ZPowers

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INTJ:
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INTP:
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INTP:
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(I honestly can't remember if Roy Batty is an INTJ, it's been a long time since I've seen that. Data from Star Trek is another clear INTP robotic character. C-3PO, I do not think so.)

NOTE: Within has clarified and I believe I was slightly too literal with my interpretation of his post.
 

Zarathustra

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Not sure where this sudden surge in INTP voting came from, but the official count is now 12-18.

Much more even than we've been in quite some time.
 

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Not sure where this sudden surge in INTP voting came from, but the official count is now 12-18.

Much more even than we've been in quite some time.

A bunch of nobody INTJs logged in. Thread must've popped up somewhere else.
 
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