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[NT] are physical manifestation of extreme emotional situations common to NTs?

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while facing emotions that they are not quite capable of dealing with, is it common for NTs to have those emotions manifest themselves physically?

to give my own example, after i lost my stepson, my mornings have become a ritual of waking up looking for him, realizing i can't reach him, followed up by panic attacks (according to my doctor), which i had to research to confirm (i don't trust my doctor). sometimes i had them a few times a day.
i have had nothing of this sort before, no anxiety disorder, nothing heredity to indicate this.. as far as i can tell its just an emotional situation i can't mentally contain so it manifested itself physically.

i am wondering if similar or perhaps more subtle physical manifestations of new emotional state one isn't equipped to deal with are common for NTs in particular?

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edit: i may have worded this wrong so just to be clear: i have lost my stepson because my marriage failed and i have no legal right for him and can't demand any access or visitation rights, he is alive and well with my ex-wife. now let's focus on the question at hand.
 

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Complete opposite really, they manifest mentally in a somewhat detached from the physical sense

When I cry though my arms tingle but that's about it for the physical

Sorry for your loss
 

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I'm sorry for your loss.
PTSD. It can happen to anyone. Highly sensitive people and the ambidextrous are more likely to suffer from it. Also, if you have a tendency to stuff emotions and not deal with them, they will come out somehow, as panic attacks or other behavior that won't seem to be connected to the original event, like risk taking, raging or numbing out with substances.
It's not hereditary. It's the bodies normal response to overwhelming events. It can be dealt with and overcome with therapy from a specialist in PTSD.
Good luck.
 

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I'm sorry for your loss.
PTSD. It can happen to anyone. Highly sensitive people and the ambidextrous are more likely to suffer from it. Also, if you have a tendency to stuff emotions and not deal with them, they will come out somehow, as panic attacks or other behavior that won't seem to be connected to the original event, like risk taking, raging or numbing out with substances.
It's not hereditary. It's the bodies normal response to overwhelming events. It can be dealt with and overcome with therapy from a specialist in PTSD.
Good luck.

Or drop a few ecstasy pills. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2004887,00.html

Kidding of course, see a doctor
 

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I'm really sorry for your loss.

To answer your question, yes, I think physical manifestations are normal regardless of type. Maybe NTs are more vulnerable in a way because they tend to stuff their feelings more. You can control emotional expression but the body never lies. At least that's the case with me. When I undergo really emotionally intense situations, I may act calm on the outside but my bodily reactions are strong. I typically exhibit some of the following symptoms:
Rapid heartbeat
Muscle tension
Trouble sitting still
Dry mouth
Insomnia or tiredness
Blushing
 

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I'm really sorry for your loss.

To answer your question, yes, I think physical manifestations are normal regardless of type. Maybe NTs are more vulnerable in a way because they tend to stuff their feelings more. You can control emotional expression but the body never lies. At least that's the case with me. When I undergo really emotionally intense situations, I may act calm on the outside but my bodily reactions are strong. I typically exhibit some of the following symptoms:
Rapid heartbeat
Muscle tension
Trouble sitting still
Dry mouth
Insomnia or tiredness
Blushing

Yep. I find symptoms to amplify in particular if one pays attention to/identifies with the mental noise. What would otherwise be rationalized away can manifest when there is an emotional attachment, logical or not.

Sorry for your loss.
 
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edited the OP to clear some confusion that may have happened.
I'm sorry for your loss.
PTSD. It can happen to anyone. Highly sensitive people and the ambidextrous are more likely to suffer from it. Also, if you have a tendency to stuff emotions and not deal with them, they will come out somehow, as panic attacks or other behavior that won't seem to be connected to the original event, like risk taking, raging or numbing out with substances.
It's not hereditary. It's the bodies normal response to overwhelming events. It can be dealt with and overcome with therapy from a specialist in PTSD.
Good luck.

thanks but i'm fine. i have learned to see them coming most of the times, i learned of a way to breath that helps me calm it down, soften the blow and sometimes even dodge the bullet, i sometimes have enough time to get to the bathroom when it happens publicly. its not fading or going away, and i acted a little bit insane for the first few months (relatively to me anyway), but i am learning how to live with this, function like a healthy human being, work on projects, laugh, have fun, socialize, scheme, brainstorm crap, everything... i can handle this.

and i don't suspect PTSD. i had lost close people before and i have went through my entire army service and one of the most badly handled wars my country has gone through without developing PTSD. i have pretty much always being able to laugh it off. i think if i had any inclination towards PTSD it would show itself by now.

no, this is more like... dread. i experience it more as constant dread of needing to protect and care for and nurture and love someone with every bone in your body and not being able to see anyway to get there. it's usually in the back of my head but it doesn't take much to tip me over... i just handle it better when it does.
 

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I'm very sorry for your loss. Yes I completely agree that we can have physical manifestations due to extreme emotional situations.

Maybe NTs are more vulnerable in a way because they tend to stuff their feelings more.

I agree this can be a big reason for it. There isn't a great deal that will do it to me but I get things like...'

Headaches for days.
Inability to focus which only exacerbates the problem.
Insomnia
Withdrawn (much more than my usual decompression time every day).

You should find a doctor you can trust. I research every bit of info but, mine knows this and is very interested in what I am finding. We can work together to find a solution. I've never had panic attacks but something close a couple times. I think it's the body's way of resetting and saying - Woah. Hold the fuck up! You need to pay attention to these problems! You have to listen to it.
 

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I tend to channel those emotions into repetitive action for something positive
 

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anybody can have that, but nts are probably worse due to not adequately dealing with their feelings. i have a big problem with eye twitching and shoulder clenching from my horrible job.

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that's nothing compared to losing your kid though, which you are too macho to admit this thread is really about.
 
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Sorry for your loss
I'm sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss.
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I'm very sorry for your loss.

i think this was bad wording on my part: i lost my stepson from my life, he is alive and well, just not within my reach or capacity to contact. i apologize for the confusion and drawing of uncalled sympathy, took me awhile to realize that's probably what most people think i meant. i'm going to use the foreigner 'english fail' card...
 

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[MENTION=15291]Mane[/MENTION] Excercise, working, chasing girls, hanging with friends, learning. I know it's not the healthiest thing but I am unable to solve my problem except through the actions above (esp. Work). For you I would suggest finding a way to grieve... and perhaps having a spiritual experience that let's you say goodbye
 

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I'm not an NT. My credentials = I'm EP and e7 <--- although I've been learning lately that most NTs are Christian and think the enneagram is a bunch of hocus pocus (haha just kidding about the enneagram)

I've somewhat recently suffered a separation (loss)...and believe me...being NF doesn't provide me with some automatic ability to deal with my emotions. There are definitely moments when I can access the pain...but for the most part everything is manifesting itself physically. I have terrible anxiety and am exhausted. And while I do know that I am depressed...I seem very resistant to actually experiencing that depression mentally (if that makes sense). I think part of what it means to be an EP e7 is this sense of 'unwavering optimism'...putting a positive spin on our life stories in a sincere belief that everything will work out *fantastically*!...but when life serves us up some serious shit we can become very confused and stuck. We want to move forward...and we find we can't. There is a sense like...'wait the hell a minute Life...this is totally unacceptable!'. There must be something I can DO about this...but when there's not? That's when the anxiety comes. Because you are left with a bunch of pain that...because of your nature...you are ill-equiped to deal with. Or at least that has been my experience.
 

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i think this was bad wording on my part: i lost my stepson from my life, he is alive and well, just not within my reach or capacity to contact. i apologize for the confusion and drawing of uncalled sympathy, took me awhile to realize that's probably what most people think i meant. i'm going to use the foreigner 'english fail' card...

Ohhhh
 

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Mane, that sucks. You sound like you have a deep attachment to your stepson and you're suffering from the absence of his presence in your life. I'm sorry you're going through this.

I think NTs can suffer from physical manifestations that have its roots in emotional trauma. When I was going through the end of my marriage and divorce, things were pretty bad. You couldn't convince me at times that I wasn't having a heart attack. I had horrible palpitations, intractable headaches, sleeplessness, constantly on edge because I was extremely paranoid. It was a horrible place to be in. NT can deal with a lot of stuff well but emotional pain doesn't seem to be one of them.
 

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i have...in the past. i used to suffer from anxiety attacks. i had no idea why at all at the time because i block things out or push them away rather than dealing with them and honestly didn't even know i was stressed or having emotional trauma happening.
 

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I'm not an NT. My credentials = I'm EP and e7 <--- although I've been learning lately that most NTs are Christian and think the enneagram is a bunch of hocus pocus (haha just kidding about the enneagram)

I've somewhat recently suffered a separation (loss)...and believe me...being NF doesn't provide me with some automatic ability to deal with my emotions. There are definitely moments when I can access the pain...but for the most part everything is manifesting itself physically. I have terrible anxiety and am exhausted. And while I do know that I am depressed...I seem very resistant to actually experiencing that depression mentally (if that makes sense). I think part of what it means to be an EP e7 is this sense of 'unwavering optimism'...putting a positive spin on our life stories in a sincere belief that everything will work out *fantastically*!...but when life serves us up some serious shit we can become very confused and stuck. We want to move forward...and we find we can't. There is a sense like...'wait the hell a minute Life...this is totally unacceptable!'. There must be something I can DO about this...but when there's not? That's when the anxiety comes. Because you are left with a bunch of pain that...because of your nature...you are ill-equiped to deal with. Or at least that has been my experience.

yes this exactly.
 

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Scream really loud where no one can hear you

Laugh tears out of your body

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I shake and get stomach pains and get really cold when I get nervous, but I think that's not unique to me in any way. Although I get nervous much easier than most people; almost every time I've taken the big five I get the highest score possible on neuroticism. I think one time I answered one of the questions for neuroticism at a 3 or 4 instead of a 5.
 
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