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[ENTP] ENTPs: What do you daydream about?

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thats true and i am glad for it. cause if we all got to live our traits this world would be a nasty place

Well, not necessarily. I don't think ENTPs can truly be evil. There's a mental block/boundary that you place. Scary part is that, you can remove and modify that as you wish. But, fun part is that, you always prefer the "right" route, unlike an INTJ ><. no?
 

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>implying that you have more first hand experience in opposition to the person actually experiencing
 

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so you say you have first hand experience regarding entps i couldnt have being an entp. i dont get you captain
 

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@ bolded:
which is what the OP asks for. :coffee:

Yah that can be anything, as seen in this thread. Would YOU rather listen to what others see you as and work to make that work in your benefit or listen to what your head tells you every day, every second anyway?
 
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Given my best friend's an ENTP and we've been friends from the age of 14 (a decade), I'd say I do have valuable FIRST-HAND observation experience that none of you may have. You see yourself, from your view.

This is how others very close to sees you.

k?

Welcome to TC! :D
 

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damn it typing on the handy naked in bed is a bitch xD
 

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>implying that you have more first hand experience in opposition to the person actually experiencing

Implying, at least one very highly successful ENTP chose me to confide in. That should be a very interesting observation for you to know.
 

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Yah that can be anything, as seen in this thread. Would YOU rather listen to what others see you as and work to make that work in your benefit or listen to what your head tells you every day, every second anyway?

I really don't see where you're trying to go with this or how it is relevant to the OP. perhaps start your own thread and pose that question there?
 

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Just discussing. I'm an INTP, we love debates! I don't see this topic to be important enough to make an entire thread for it <.<
 

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Well, not necessarily. I don't think ENTPs can truly be evil. There's a mental block/boundary that you place. Scary part is that, you can remove and modify that as you wish. But, fun part is that, you always prefer the "right" route, unlike an INTJ ><. no?

think that strongly depends on if you play for the light or the dark side. what means if other peoples happiness is more important to you than your own.

i have choosen to play for the light side, the problem tho is i dont like most people cause they tend to make fun out of me being a confused dreamer. so its a hate love for me.

i now tho that i could be egoistic and live out some very dark traits yes. i dont want to tho most important to me is family and i'ld be the person needed to protect them.
 

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He wouldn't tell you all how he is even if you offered him a million bucks. You should know that. The point to my discussion truly would be to know if all of you truly are like that.
 

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think that strongly depends on if you play for the light or the dark side. what means if other peoples happiness is more important to you than your own.

i have choosen to play for the light side, the problem tho is i dont like most people cause they tend to make fun out of me being a confused dreamer. so its a hate love for me.

i now tho that i could be egoistic and live out some very dark traits yes. i dont want to tho most important to me is family and i'ld be the person needed to protect them.

Very interesting. At what age did you come to that conclusion? If you don't mind me asking.
 

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Very interesting. At what age did you come to that conclusion? If you don't mind me asking.

no specific age really thats going on like that all my life. i have always gained strength by choosing the difficult way and thru coooperation with others concentrating your force.

really depends on the mood tho, some days its me against the world
 

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no specific age really thats going on like that all my life. i have always gained strength by choosing the difficult way and thru coooperation with others concentrating your force.

really depends on the mood tho, some days its me against the world

Do you, then, choose not to use "charm - as defined by what the other is needing" while convincing "others"?
 
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think that strongly depends on if you play for the light or the dark side. what means if other peoples happiness is more important to you than your own.

i have choosen to play for the light side, the problem tho is i dont like most people cause they tend to make fun out of me being a confused dreamer. so its a hate love for me.

i now tho that i could be egoistic and live out some very dark traits yes. i dont want to tho most important to me is family and i'ld be the person needed to protect them.
i have always gained strength by choosing the difficult way and thru coooperation with others concentrating your force.

really depends on the mood tho, some days its me against the world
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He wouldn't tell you all how he is even if you offered him a million bucks.
Your friend might be an INTP, huh?

You should know that.
Was that necessary?

The point to my discussion truly would be to know if all of you truly are like that.
:)
 

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Do you, then, choose not to use "charm - as defined by what the other is needing" while convincing "others"?

if you want to rally people you always need charm, a motivational self or some other form of charisma. if i want to convince people tho, i always resort to reason. most times tho i am basing my decisions on hunches and intuitions and that you cant explain to people and better dont cause they wont understand.

still its those intuitions that help me hunching what a business partner really wants or what my girlfriend is feeling at the moment. its not like some magical force its more like you try to have all details of a situation at once in mind and puzzle then possible scenarios from that
 

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Your friend might be an INTP, huh?


Was that necessary?


:)

No, he is not an INTP. I fit the most stereotype INTP description you can ever find. ENTPs are chameleons by default, not us - INTPs. We can however, choose to be, when we understand how it works by watching ENTPs.
 
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No, he is not an INTP. I fit the most stereotype INTP description you can ever find. ENTPs are chameleons by default, not us - INTPs. We can however, choose to be, when we understand how it works by watching ENTPs.
Okay. :)

How old is your friend?
 

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if you want to rally people you always need charm, a motivational self or some other form of charisma. if i want to convince people tho, i always resort to reason. most times tho i am basing my decisions on hunches and intuitions and that you cant explain to people and better dont cause they wont understand.

Something my friend told me, pretty much like that.

Yah, I think this is why I figured ENTPs in general can not be evil. To be truly evil, imo, you have to lose that attitude of caring what "they" are thinking.

I understand the intuition part well. I have that. Difference would be, yours just end when the benefit/growth potential or belief boundary is reached, that's when you improvise for a solution that will work towards your benefit. Mine does not end till I am satisfied and will not consider the position of "others". Close enough?
 

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Money? Success? Sex? Your goals? And how often?

Do you fantasize about anything and everything, or have phases of fantasizing about just a few things at a time?

Does what you fantasize about change if you're depressed/traumatized?


Back on topic


I'd say that what I daydream about specifically changes from day to day. It's heavily influenced by what I'm currently concerned about. It definitely is affected by mood like depression or hyperactivity.

In general though it usually boils down to:

future - goals , ideas, improvement, etc (broad things...the specifics change day to day, like i said)

self awareness - this only is occurring lately. With the advent of ideas like mbti for example, whole new trains of ideas and thoughts I was completely blind to have opened up. Things such as being aware of ones own line of thinking and then comparing and contrasting with others, in a more meaningful way. Prior it use to be very superficial

Efficiency - This kind of ties in both of the above. I always am trying to find out what works best. I want to be aware of anything that could possibly be an improvement. But then it's really down to I don't know what is most beneficial. Is this knowledge of self - awareness progressive or regressive, for example....would it be better not to think about anything at all (as if lul).


But yeah it boils down to that. I'm in very early 20's so that's why these things are on my thought. Obviously it's very age specific and I imagine once I get a solid foundation down things will probably change focus



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