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[ENTP] Entps- SELFISH?!?!?!?

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IZthe411

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Are ENTPs prone to be very selfish?

Long/Short- I did a big favor for my 'best' friend. He failed to keep his part of the deal, made promises he didn't keep, and even when I asked him outright, he denied there was any problem on his part. So I went out one night and took possession back of the 'big favor'. I can't believe how he reacted. he was really hurt. He said I was harsh, I didn't give him a chance, yadda yadda. There was no real admittance on his part, when I gave him over year to get to that point!

I was thinking- Can NeTi make one really fail to see that he's THE problem? He really failed to see how frustrated and serious I was, and didn't see my constant phone calls and text messages as warnings.
 
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Oberon

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What you're seeing is probably characteristic of an immature ENTP. We're not as bad as all that when we've grown up a little. :D
 
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Oberon

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Oh, the mature ENTP may lag big time in providing the agreed-upon quid-pro-quo... but he'll at least have the decency to feel bad about it and admit that that's what he's doing. :D
 

Idontcare

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Im nothing like that at all. If its a maturity thing than either im a mature 17 year old ENTP or he is EXTREMELY immature because im almost always loyal in a deal. As an ENTP I would never say "you never gave me a chance" or something like that it sounds a little dramatic and Im really not like that. You sure he isnt an F?
 

guesswho

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One ENTP is selfish. Therefor all ENTPs are selfish.
Yay!!!
Take it out on him not on the type.

ENTPs are true altruists!!
 

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I'm a selfish person.

Nevertheless, I'm a fair person.

I'll live up to a deal. Hopefully you will too.

(I'll break your legs)
 

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Selfish - yes, I want primarily to pursue my ideas and my goals. I wouldn't act like your friend did, though! I want to be honest and fair! Of course, it's possible that I don't "see" that I'm the "problem". If you act hurt without telling why, it's very possible I don't understand. I don't want to be mean, I just don't understand hints, especially not of the "you should KNOW why I'm hurt" kind. And yes, I'm a woman... who are supposed to be good at that sort of thing.
If, on the other hand, you told me: "I did you that favor and I'm pissed because you promised this to me and didn't do it"... I would be very sorry about my behaviour indeed. You have to spell such things out for me. (My ESTJ husband is very thankful for this trait - means he hasn't to be subtle either :D)
Normally I keep my promises though! At least, I try to do it.
 

IZthe411

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I was thinking- Can NeTi make one really fail to see that he's THE problem? He really failed to see how frustrated and serious I was, and didn't see my constant phone calls and text messages as warnings.

Not meant to say that all are selfish-my bad.

But Tamske answered my question best. I never said that I was hurt to him, but it's like 'c'mon man do you really think I'm okay with you giving me the royal runaround like this?' I'm not an F but if I did this to a good friend/relative I'd be able to discern that my actions would hurt personally.

Tamske also said 'sorry for her bahavior' - but not sorry for how it affects the other person, even if it's a close friend or relative?
 

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Tamske also said 'sorry for her bahavior' - but not sorry for how it affects the other person, even if it's a close friend or relative?

No, that's not what I meant... I would feel sorry about messing up, but the reason I see that as "messing up" is precisely because of the very negative effect on other persons.

Example. Two years ago I combined a part-time job as a teacher with the teacher's course. I was emotionally more close to the results of my students than to my own results.
If I mess up on my own studying, the only one having problems with it would be myself - I would get a bad grade and maybe have to do the year again.
If I mess up on my teaching, however, a few dozen students would suffer from it. I would judge this as worse than just getting a bad grade on my own record.
 

Beargryllz

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ENTPs are well-equipped to rationalize their actions and make these rationalizations known to others, if need be. This is probably what you observed.
 

Kasper

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Sounds like immaturity and avoidance. Immaturities can be, and usually are, present in anyone/everyone. Avoidance is often one pitfall of ENxP E7ness in a negative space.
 
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