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    Jezebel, the administrator of the INTJforum. Or any INTJ in any kind of authority position for that matter. Dominant Ni plus inferior Se is a recipe for terrible leadership. Basically a warped perception of reality paired with an impulsive need to never be bothered with anything they subjectively don't like. Fill out the middle with Te/Fi and you've got a recipe for someone who thinks they're being objective when they're actually being incredibly biased. Just awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Every type does this, if you hit them close enough to irk em and make em wanna prod you back. They just have their own typical style to go about it. Some of the biggest trolls Ive known are Se-users who wouldn't know Ne if it bit them in the ass. And Fe-users use this shit just to make a socially clueless person as an example of how *not* to be to the rest of the group and turn them into their personal 'fool', before outcasting them socially and mocking them.

    That said, I wont deny that Ne is a marvellous and very recognisable tool for this job.
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    My brother and two friends are INTJs. Inferior Se makes them wildcard partyers. They are that one friend that goes too far and we gotta leave the bar because someone is going to call the cops.

    I had one INTJ friend dent his own car with a deadblow while we all stood around like wtf is going on...thought we were having fun until someone got angry at...nothing? Otherwise, pretty okay by me and not normally like that.

    Also least likely to have a pet from what I have seen.

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    Took this from reddit: I still don't know what a Ni-Fi loop is. : intj

    An example:
    "Why did my SO just text me back without a period? Does that mean she's angry at me?" (Ni) "Now I'm worried that she's angry." (Fi) "What did I do? Is she actually angry or is she just sad and distancing herself? Is it even about me at all?" (Ni) "I don't deserve this kind of treatment. If she's upset, she should just tell me instead of being passive aggressive." (Fi) "How can I possibly tell her that I'm upset at how she's handling her feelings towards me without making her even more angry? How can I at least diffuse the situation?" (Ni) "God I'm so emotionally exhausted just thinking about this. This isn't my fault." (Fi)
    And on and on and on.
    To break this you need Te to step in: "Ok, I don't actually know how she feels and I'm just speculating. I should decide whether or not it's even worth bringing up, and if it is, how to bring it up in a way that seems sensitive to her feelings. If it's not worth it, I have to just let it go."
    For all you struggling INTJ's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Actually, they do, when they're off duty and irked by someone. They have no qualms feeding someone a bunch of drivel, just to see how much they can get them to swallow - in particular when the person has made assumptions about their character and failing to see their 'logical fallacies' or is in some way overstepping their boundaries.

    Tertiary Fi, aided by dominant Ni is evil, that way.
    This can also be a good way to test the other person's limits, or otherwise learn more about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    I see what you did there... and no, if someone makes assumptions, I let them continue to hang themselves. That is where all the pleasure is.
    If I have time, and if getting what I need done doesn't require correcting the assumptions. If it does, I will try to correct them gently. If I can't be bothered, I will leave them to their mistaken assumptions. If they are being obnoxious about it, though, I might actually say things that are truthful but support the assumption, until it is time to yank the rug out from under them abruptly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    INTJs tend to be all for efficiency, ime. They just get trollish when someone shows an innate lack of knowledge without being aware of it and especially when that person then starts assuming things about the INTJ based on the assumptions that come from that lack of knowledge and lack of awareness.
    Sometimes I am curious about how the person arrived at their mistaken assumptions about me. If they aren't being obnoxious and seem reasonable, I will ask them directly. Sometimes, though, the information I would have to give to correct the assumption is none of their business, or I just don't want to get into it. In that case, it becomes almost a game to see how long I can talk to them without getting close to that subject.

    As an example, I met a couple strangers awhile ago at an event hosted by my opera singer sister-in-law. I play piano and organ, and somehow it came up that we had performed together at church, for the elderly, etc. I could tell as our conversation continued that these people assumed I was a church musician by profession. (I am actually a physicist.) I saw no reason to correct this, and it was easy to answer them completely truthfully, but in a way that encouraged that view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    ^ I don't know, INTJs don't argue for the sake of arguing, so if they are engaged and talking, then they must be really interested in the subject, which is rare. If they are just arguing for the sake of arguing and playing devil's advocate then you might be dealing with an ENTP.
    Thanks for the thoughtful response but no, they are definitely not E.


    But, you be onto something. It may be related more to their need to be right all the time. I find most of their arguments petty and annoying because they love to argue over opinions and preferences. As much as I love him my husband is awful at this. We often disagree about very insignificant games

    I will say " I liked this game because of this."
    He will respond "I liked that game too...but for a different reason"

    Which is perfectly acceptable but that is not the end of it.

    "...your reason for liking it stupid and wrong and these a thousand and one reasons why." and he'll viciously attack until I get up and leave because, oh my God, I just.Don't.Care.

    ...for ex. All of the people I was speaking of do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    Jezebel, the administrator of the INTJforum. Or any INTJ in any kind of authority position for that matter. Dominant Ni plus inferior Se is a recipe for terrible leadership. Basically a warped perception of reality paired with an impulsive need to never be bothered with anything they subjectively don't like. Fill out the middle with Te/Fi and you've got a recipe for someone who thinks they're being objective when they're actually being incredibly biased. Just awful.
    I have never looked back since leaving INTJforum in 2013. I approve of the moderation on this site, but that place was something else. What was with the anal-retentive avatar size requirements there? However, that and the rules pertaining to staying on topic have me thinking that Jezebel is an unhealthy ISTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    Jezebel, the administrator of the INTJforum. Or any INTJ in any kind of authority position for that matter. Dominant Ni plus inferior Se is a recipe for terrible leadership. Basically a warped perception of reality paired with an impulsive need to never be bothered with anything they subjectively don't like. Fill out the middle with Te/Fi and you've got a recipe for someone who thinks they're being objective when they're actually being incredibly biased. Just awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa View Post
    I have never looked back since leaving INTJforum in 2013. I approve of the moderation on this site, but that place was something else. What was with the anal-retentive avatar size requirements there? However, that and the rules pertaining to staying on topic have me thinking that Jezebel is an unhealthy ISTJ.
    Or INFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    Or INFP
    Really? I must have missed a lot. Sounds like there is a good story here.

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