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[ENTP] Oi Forums People: How Do I Vibe?

Kasper

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...In terms of other ENTPs?

Excuse the self indulgence but I'm curious because as much as I relate to other ENTPs I don't see myself as presenting the same way. I feel too fluffy and iunno, squishy Fe or something equally disturbing.

I'm wondering if enneagram plays a role here, in terms of Tritype I'm a 9w8 second. I just don't feel like I go for the jugular as much as other ENTPs do, I don't even think about it and hold back, it's just not me. My 8 wing plays out more with selfishness or self drive than running over others. I also think I'm more trusting of other people's intentions, maybe more I should be.

If Whatever was still claiming ENTP I wouldn't be curious cause I can so see similarities in her, but she's deserted the NT camp for greener, more colour intensive pastures of the SP camp :cry:

And don't make me uncomfortable with compliments, I'm not fishing for them, my ego is full up already, oh yeah! :cheese:
 

alcea rosea

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I think your ENTP' vibes are ok. ;)

In my experience, there are very different "vibing" ENTP's. Some are quite serious regarding to other ENTP's who are actually quite silly and quite entertaining. I don't know why there is such a difference, almost like a two different types even if they both fit really well in the Ne-Ti functions...?

Maybe it's about who'se Ne is much stronger (=silly ENTP's) and whose Ti is almost as strong as Ne (more serious ENTP's). So, basically, when the the ENTP's who are more extroverted are the silly ones and the ones with less extroverted are more serious ones, a bit like INTP's?

Maybe a division of ENTP and eNTP would be appropriate? :thinking:
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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I'll buy ENTP. I'd also buy ENFJ. You have the same charisma as Domino, but yours is a little more...straightforward and assertive. Calculating?
 

JivinJeffJones

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Yeah you don't come across like most ENTPs on the forum. Your claws are fully retractable. You're like a cross between an ENTP and Domino in posting style imo.

Edit: ha, I typed that without even having read XNTP's post.
 

Kasper

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I think Domino is super-sassy-sexiness dipped in a giant bowl of tasty honey :wub:

Heh, I also think it's saying stuff like that ^ which would make people read me as similar.

I don't care what people think of me, much of the time, but in an almost contradictory way I care about how other people are feeling, which means I can censor myself and it seems that it's often not consciously.

I wish I could care less. Because I can see why/how Fi users could see Fe as fake and at times I feel fake as the emotion of a situation can overwhelm me into giving up my stance for the warm sickly glow of making someone else happy.


Maybe a division of ENTP and eNTP would be appropriate? :thinking:

I thought I was INTP for a long time because in the social sense of extrovert I'm not it. But that's more a result of suppression and depression than the real me.

Maybe one thing is I doubt my views on most things so I'm less inclined to debate anything serious cause I don't trust that I'm right and don't want to defend a view that may turn out to be wrong, and hate having to admit that I'm wrong :doh: I feel easy to pwn in a debate, another ENTP could smash me! INTPs can't though cause they don't count, it's because they live in their parents basements!
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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Yeah you don't come across like most ENTPs on the forum. Your claws are fully retractable. You're like a cross between an ENTP and Domino in posting style imo.

Edit: ha, I typed that without even having read XNTP's post.

We're either both geniuses. :nerd::nerd:
Or both crazy. :crazy::crazy:
 

Kasper

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You're both crazy genies, I knows it!
 
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I think Domino is super-sassy-sexiness dipped in a giant bowl of tasty honey :wub:

Heh, I also think it's saying stuff like that ^ which would make people read me as similar.

I don't care what people think of me, much of the time, but in an almost contradictory way I care about how other people are feeling, which means I can censor myself and it seems that it's often not consciously.

I wish I could care less. Because I can see why/how Fi users could see Fe as fake and at times I feel fake as the emotion of a situation can overwhelm me into giving up my stance for the warm sickly glow of making someone else happy.




I thought I was INTP for a long time because in the social sense of extrovert I'm not it. But that's more a result of suppression and depression than the real me.

Maybe one thing is I doubt my views on most things so I'm less inclined to debate anything serious cause I don't trust that I'm right and don't want to defend a view that may turn out to be wrong, and hate having to admit that I'm wrong :doh: I feel easy to pwn in a debate, another ENTP could smash me! INTPs can't though cause they don't count, it's because they live in their parents basements!
I have noticed that the female ENTPs tend to be less rough around the edges than their male counterparts (based on this forum). I could totally buy you as an ENTP even though I don't really know you.
 

Kasper

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I have noticed that the female ENTPs tend to be less rough around the edges than their male counterparts (based on this forum).

There are differences in socialisation that often falls down the line of sex, but even taking that into consideration I "feel" different. Not as in a "oh you so unique! *finger click*" kinda way, more in a "not quite right for an ENTP" kinda way.
 

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I'll buy ENTP. I'd also buy ENFJ. You have the same charisma as Domino, but yours is a little more...straightforward and assertive. Calculating?

Yeah you don't come across like most ENTPs on the forum. Your claws are fully retractable. You're like a cross between an ENTP and Domino in posting style imo.

Edit: ha, I typed that without even having read XNTP's post.

I agree with this--your playfulness is similar to Domino's, but I don't feel an ENFJ vibe from you. Your Ti definitely comes out, though Ne reads first. And I definitely get Fe from you.

I think you're an ENTP with social awareness. :smile: I like that you're not afraid to put people back in line as a mod, but you're careful not to humiliate. You put your humor to good use.
 

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Well, you have made a lot of intps answer to your thread; this is normally counter-indicative for being an entp and only works if you start a thread with "All INTPs have a small p-ness" :D.

Jokes aside, I do too think you are entp. You dont need to voice super-critical opinions or challenge the status quo to be one. What I too think tho is that you have a strong opinion, in oposition to you being weak-willed. Meaning I dont think you are weak-willed.

The problem tho then is, tho everyone lately seems to pick on entps for constantly creating trouble or like the intps call it ( to not think things through before voicing them ), I personally always felt that this kind of trouble or challenge to the status quo is imperative for new insights on a matter and therefore for the creation of new ideas.

So if you have a strong opinion as an entp, but always try to keep everything fluffy with everyone ( as long as they dont step outa line ), it can ( but must not ) create the double-face for you. Like with a guy, who is always picking on you, but not really seriously and you always laugh about his jokes to be nice to him, until he cracks one when you think: that's the last straw and you go all meany on him.

I dont know if you have this problem, I am throwing out ideas and am assuming; for me it was an important lesson to learn, like when in Battlestar Galactica, Colonel Adama told his son that his problem in life is, he hasnt taken sides. And tho I was all "I'll never take a side, why do I have to" in that moment, I more and more come to understand with age, why it could be important for ones own well-being and good-feeling to take a side from time to time.
 

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I dont know if you have this problem, I am throwing out ideas and am assuming; for me it was an important lesson to learn, like when in Battlestar Galactica, Colonel Adama told his son that his problem in life is, he hasnt taken sides. And tho I was all "I'll never take a side, why do I have to" in that moment, I more and more come to understand with age, why it could be important for ones own well-being and good-feeling to take a side from time to time.

Very good thinking!
You're the first NTP besides my father that I have interacted with that seems to get this. :blush:
I've always wondered why the very people who seem to have no problems saying almost anything that can be considered rude etc have a problem with real conflicts.
Like... Here you'll get a made up example.

RandomPerson1: Hey, ENTP! RandomPerson2 killed my entire family and raped my three dogs before killing them too.

ENTP: Yeah, but I don't want to be taking sides, i'm gonna be friends with the both of you.

<Sound of the WROOOONG-button>


Well, that was exaggerated. But. Fact remains that this can destroy, no... It will destroy your relationships with others.
If you do not learn to understand how people feel and that you can't have the cake and eat it too.
You'll have to prioritize some people before others.
Avoiding conflicts altogether never helped anyone.
Hell, even Gandhi knew how to pick a fight.
 

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There are differences in socialisation that often falls down the line of sex, but even taking that into consideration I "feel" different. Not as in a "oh you so unique! *finger click*" kinda way, more in a "not quite right for an ENTP" kinda way.

Whoa - slow your roll there. How do you know what an ENTP is "supposed" to feel like? How could you know that? There's no way you can possibly know what others' subjective experiences are, so how can you say that yours is "not right"?
 

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err ... that's why I'm asking.
 

Kasper

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*squeals* Ooooh :woot:

Mostly what I wrote in the OP and Post #5, onemoretime.
 

onemoretime

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*squeals* Ooooh :woot:

Mostly what I wrote in the OP and Post #5, onemoretime.

Thing is, I experience those situations and emotions too. If there's a male-female divide, it's perhaps that women can be more honest and forthright about it. Men must compensate and deflect/dissociate from these emotions, so as not to feel inferior to their peers.

It's a tricky business.
 

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I'll buy ENTP. I'd also buy ENFJ. You have the same charisma as Domino, but yours is a little more...straightforward and assertive. Calculating?

Nah I think you're way off. In fact, it's the lack of being calculating that makes it hard for me to see Trin as ENTP. They seem to have a natural cynicism that I just don't get from her. At all. Of course, she could just be REALLY good at hiding it. :) And she's never competitive. She almost comes off as a tough-minded ENFP, like ergo, or Cze-Cze.

You know I've never bought your ENTPness, Trin, and that's not just because I think you're awesome. :D
 

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Nah I think you're way off. In fact, it's the lack of being calculating that makes it hard for me to see Trin as ENTP. They seem to have a natural cynicism that I just don't get from her. At all. Of course, she could just be REALLY good at hiding it. :) And she's never competitive. She almost comes off as a tough-minded ENFP, like ergo, or Cze-Cze.

You know I've never bought your ENTPness, Trin, and that's not just because I think you're awesome. :D

Tho this could just be another example for "when the single mysteries of the world are more complicated than theory allows them to be".

Calculation I dont see necessary as a mandatory ability for an ENTP that would be mandatory if you've choosen to work with the dark side. And the other thing, I think trinity is quite good at being cynic, at least she usually gets all the cynical jokes, it's just up to her if she wants to step on other peoples shoes with it.

It's a tough call indeed, I am tho personally convinced there's a lot more to trinity we havent seen on this forum and probably never gonna be. And that shady side hidden in unvoiced mysteries, which makes it intresting to get her to know, feels entp to me.
 
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