IntrovertedThinker
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You are being too modest. What you wrote is great, it really inspired me.
People are different.
I love how the rest of you see it as a sign of maturity to accept diversity, difference of personality, and how society (or the "real world") it to be conformed to and mindlessly accepted.
Maturity is realizing what is in your best interest and acting on it. Many people conclude what is in their best interest is to assess their strengths and weaknesses and work to establish a lifestyle that plays to their strengths while developing their weakness.
The blanket statement, "people are mindless" is foolishly short sighted, not productive, and if you want to go logical, it is false, as you are a person.
Dealing with cashiers or anybody else can be frustrating to NT's and we can certainly extrapolate our frustration out of the emotion of the frustration, but to argue people are mindless is foolish. It can be lonely not identifying with others and basing self worth on feelings of intellectual superiority is one way of dealing with perceived social isolation. I don't know you well enough to say for sure you do this, this thread makes it appear as if you do.
As a coping method, intellectual narcisism isn't productive; it doesn't move you forward. You may be convinced you are correct and logically coherent, but the nature of the human animal is such that it takes more than that to thrive. And unless you're a subsistence farmer, you rely on others materially. Like it or not, you rely on others emotionally as well, you are actively seeking social validation of your worldview on the thread.
Given that you have to interact with people to fulfil your needs and social skills are a weakness of yours, it would be in your best interest to seek to develop your social skills. Especially if you aspire to do more than menial labor, which you could because you obviously are intelligent.
It is a fallacy to assume that getting out of your comfort zone and engaging the world requires you to compromise your personal integrity. In fact, seeking out why people do what they do is a good way to find a richer, more enjoyable life which ultimately is more in your interest than being right and logically coherent.
I say all this because I sympathize and I care, for better or for worse.
Maturity is realizing what is in your best interest and acting on it. Many people conclude what is in their best interest is to assess their strengths and weaknesses and work to establish a lifestyle that plays to their strengths while developing their weakness.
The blanket statement, "people are mindless" is foolishly short sighted, not productive, and if you want to go logical, it is false, as you are a person.
Dealing with cashiers or anybody else can be frustrating to NT's and we can certainly extrapolate our frustration out of the emotion of the frustration, but to argue people are mindless is foolish. It can be lonely not identifying with others and basing self worth on feelings of intellectual superiority is one way of dealing with perceived social isolation. I don't know you well enough to say for sure you do this, this thread makes it appear as if you do.
As a coping method, intellectual narcisism isn't productive; it doesn't move you forward. You may be convinced you are correct and logically coherent, but the nature of the human animal is such that it takes more than that to thrive. And unless you're a subsistence farmer, you rely on others materially. Like it or not, you rely on others emotionally as well, you are actively seeking social validation of your worldview on the thread.
Given that you have to interact with people to fulfil your needs and social skills are a weakness of yours, it would be in your best interest to seek to develop your social skills. Especially if you aspire to do more than menial labor, which you could because you obviously are intelligent.
It is a fallacy to assume that getting out of your comfort zone and engaging the world requires you to compromise your personal integrity. In fact, seeking out why people do what they do is a good way to find a richer, more enjoyable life which ultimately is more in your interest than being right and logically coherent.
I say all this because I sympathize and I care, for better or for worse.
Maturity is realizing what is in your best interest and acting on it. Many people conclude what is in their best interest is to assess their strengths and weaknesses and work to establish a lifestyle that plays to their strengths while developing their weakness.
The blanket statement, "people are mindless" is foolishly short sighted, not productive, and if you want to go logical, it is false, as you are a person.
Dealing with cashiers or anybody else can be frustrating to NT's and we can certainly extrapolate our frustration out of the emotion of the frustration, but to argue people are mindless is foolish. It can be lonely not identifying with others and basing self worth on feelings of intellectual superiority is one way of dealing with perceived social isolation. I don't know you well enough to say for sure you do this, this thread makes it appear as if you do.
As a coping method, intellectual narcisism isn't productive; it doesn't move you forward. You may be convinced you are correct and logically coherent, but the nature of the human animal is such that it takes more than that to thrive. And unless you're a subsistence farmer, you rely on others materially. Like it or not, you rely on others emotionally as well, you are actively seeking social validation of your worldview on the thread.
Given that you have to interact with people to fulfil your needs and social skills are a weakness of yours, it would be in your best interest to seek to develop your social skills. Especially if you aspire to do more than menial labor, which you could because you obviously are intelligent.
It is a fallacy to assume that getting out of your comfort zone and engaging the world requires you to compromise your personal integrity. In fact, seeking out why people do what they do is a good way to find a richer, more enjoyable life which ultimately is more in your interest than being right and logically coherent.
I say all this because I sympathize and I care, for better or for worse.
+2, Brilliant words here Suttree
I think one of the central issues is with the fact that you talk like the INTP way is the only way in which to truly live. I think some find this statement to be 'vain' and slightly close-minded. This is only what I'm perceiving though. You remark the superiority of the NT's as a fact many times, which is intuitively taken as "Everyone elses way is wrong or a lesser way of living." when such a statement doesn't make sense, because I see wrong as 'not surviving' and those who do not use our way of thinking have survived thus these 16 primary patterns of thinking have survived. This is what I'm understanding the opposition against you to be. I don't know if this information brought to light changes your perception of the situation or not, but it's what I'm seeing.