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    No offense, paisley, as I've loved your arguments up to this point, but what you wrote is something that no Fi-user could ever accept.

    You either are or are not open-minded or close-minded (keeping the temporal issue out of mind).

    Your perception by others, at least to an Fi-user, is irrelevant.
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    Extraverted Intuitive The most open-minded of the types, they are fascinated by the new. Impulsive, adventurous, and creative, their minds entertain future plans and new ideas. They do not live in the immediate physical reality, but in a world of relationships and possibilities. They abhor routine.
    in Fundamental Nature of the MBTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    You can close the thread now.
    How very open-minded of you...
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    And you should probably read this post.
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    And this from personality page...

    Quote Originally Posted by personalitypage.com
    Others may falsely perceive the INTJ as being rigid and set in their ways. Nothing could be further from the truth, because the INTJ is committed to always finding the objective best strategy to implement their ideas. The INTJ is usually quite open to hearing an alternative way of doing something.
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Here's my take on it:

    I think INTJs tend to *appear* more close minded than INTPs because INTJs extravert thinking (which is a judging function), while INTPs extravert intuition (a perceiving function).

    However, INTJs dominant function is introverted intuition, which is a perceiving function and INTPs dominant function is introverted thinking, a judging function.

    INTJs: Appear more closed-minded on the outside but really quite flexible on the inside. Opposite for INTPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paradigm-shift View Post
    Here's my take on it:

    I think INTJs tend to *appear* more close minded than INTPs because INTJs extravert thinking (which is a judging function), while INTPs extravert intuition (a perceiving function).

    However, INTJs dominant function is introverted intuition, which is a perceiving function and INTPs dominant function is introverted thinking, a judging function.

    INTJs: Appear more closed-minded on the outside but really quite flexible on the inside. Opposite for INTPs.
    Exactly.

    That's actually, by my understanding, the exact difference between the definitions of "Judger" and "Perceiver" in MBTI and Socionics.

    I think there is value to both ways, but, on the whole, I actually think Socionics might have the better methodology for labeling J/j and P/p.
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    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    D eternal battle between the NTJs and NTPs CONTINUES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robopop View Post
    D eternal battle between the NTJs and NTPs CONTINUES!!!!!!!!!!!!
    29 to 7 at this point.

    I think we can call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    29 to 7 at this point.

    I think we can call it.
    It's actually 30 to 6, due to a wrong vote. Damn butterfly ballots, man...

    I would say the fact that the vast majority of voters have been NTPs skews the vote, but...

    I think I'd rather just pull the Nazi card, and remind everybody that the Germans also elected Hitler to power...

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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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