[INTP] INTP musicians

[InsatiableCuriosity]

he is confident yet reserved and private, quirky, different, experimental, thinking - how could he not be

 

[Reflection]

he is confident yet reserved and private, quirky, different, experimental, thinking - how could he not be

Well, of course.

 

[InsatiableCuriosity]

Probably time I went to sleep - I have been journeying around the world of music past and present on youtube

 

[Totenkindly]

My dad was a band director, and I've always been musically talented.

I started piano when I was five and it's been my primary instrument all my life. I am not really a "play by music" person, although I'm excellent at sight reading; my natural mode is "by ear" and I never liked to play what was on the page, I liked to add things to it in order to make it better or more interesting. I remember starting to ad lib music at about 5-7 years into my musical studies, and started composing outright original works by about year 10. I made regional choir in high school, as well as district band in Pennsylvania on oboe. I also learned how to play pipe organ and subbed occasionally and played for weddings.

I was involved in church music all my life and developed a worship team for ten years at my last church, before I left. I was a rhythm pianist for our band (electric and acoustic guitar, percussion, drums, singers) as well as the "fill in" -- I'd come to church and fill in music wherever it was needed, whether communion, dedication service, presentation, whatever. My favorite times in church were just sitting at the piano with my eyes shut, playing variations on different songs I knew in order to create a particular mood while people came up for communion. For me it was very much function-related. INTPs seem to see a connection between beauty and truth, and musical structure is a type of inherent physical truth... I would toss things into the mix, then listen to where they were going and follow them to their rational conclusion, and I would keep adding new things to see how they impacted the big picture pattern I was part of and following them too. People were often very moved by my playing.

I think the thing is that the more Ti INTPs will have more trouble, they'll do better with Bach and other structured music and less like improvisation. I'm very Ne in how I engage the world, with a good aesthetic sense, and so I'm much more a "try something, then weave it all together based on what happens" person.

I also think artistic skill is not necessarily part of type. I have INTP friends who can't carry a tune to save their lives. But there are some of us here who are actually decent musicians (Tallulah plays guitar in a band, for example). It depends on natural giftings and how much rigid we are or aren't. I'm very P and flex to all the cues around me. If we do have musical talent and are willing to listen to what is around us, the INTP strengths allow for some potent creativity in terms of creating a coherent vision.

EDIT: Let's talk about writing lyrics a moment (due to the OP's aspiring songwriter comment). INTPs need to be careful because we are rational... but good lyrics are about writing things that impact people rather than writing a rational treatise on life. I found I had to loosen up, so to speak, and worry more about the musical hook and focus on lines that would stick emotionally rather than being too complicated. I think some of the more profound lyricists are NFJ types, while SFPs seem to create some great "fun" hooks.

 

[InsatiableCuriosity]

If I didn't need to get some sleep I would love to chat about creativity and the VERY Ne - me too so another time Jen?? I think it enhances the Fi.

G'night all

PS here is self-taught maestro gypsy flamenco guitarist - Manitas de Plata YouTube - manitas de plata (2/15)

 

[Robopop]

I suspect Bowie is an INTP as well

David Bowie is VERY intellectual and adaptable.

 

[Valuable_Money]

Buckethead.

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBPBSkrnO1M&feature=fvw"]this is all improvised[/YOUTUBE]

He not only has a virtuoso command of his instrument but also a deep understanding of musical theory. He was a prodigy, already performing infront of audiences at age 16(and only a year after beginning lessons). Hes super shy and according to those who have worked with him hes a very strange person even when not putting on his stage act.
Some people even theorize that hes some sort of autistic savant.

 

[Redbone]

I think I would have made a good musician. I have excellent rhythm and acoustical memory but I never had any encouragement to pursue anything as a child (not infrequent among us). Plus I only had a deep interest, I never thought I had any aptitude or talent because I had a sister (probably an unstable ESFP) that was "artistically inclined"--musician and artist--she drew well and play several intruments. So, I just stayed out of the mix because I wouldn't be alive now if I even remotely tried to draw the spotlight off of her.

I'd still like to learn to play something. String or percussion. And yes, I'm 5w/4, too.

 

[clayrins]

You mean oil and water?

Maybe that was a Freudian slip and he answered his own question, lol.

It would seem to me that being a musician would go pretty well with INTPS, especially as a songwriting musician. I'ts said that INTPs are well suited to work as free-lance writers among a lot of other careers, so I figure it would.

I've never been diagnosed by a "professional," but I've read up a lot on Carl Young and INTPS. Everything I've read describes me better than any theory as far as INTPs.

I'm a solo instrumentalist/singer and do a little songwriting. Most songwriters and musicians I know personally (or famous ones I don't) seem to be INTB to me more than anything, at least the ones I'm a fan of do. So maybe that's just my bias.

 

[Mycroft]

If Steve Albini's not an INTP, I don't know who is. I could see it for Buckethead as well, but it's impossible to say, since he's so reclusive.

I think Bowie and Reznor are both almost certainly INTJs, though.

 

[Fluffywolf]

I absolutely suck at playing intruments. Not even serious dedication and harsh training allows me to play an instrument properly. I have always regretted that I completely lack any talent in this regard, as I always felt that playing music would be a good way to express myself. I just can't do it.

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

I... Am one.

I... wonder why I type like this and... Why I have never seen this thread before; Probably some over sight on my part.

I am also a CAD number carrying member of PRS the British ASCAP on the international catolog of songs in English, they did ask me what langauge my material would be in, and I put English... Maybe I should have put more but... Yeah. I have yet to earn any royalties anyway.
My last gig was October 27th 2011, that was cool, it was an open mic gig, not ticketed, but, still cool.
I write but I first and foremost play the guitar, it seems, I love it all but, I'm that guitarist guy who thinks he's famous or some crazy b/s like that, it's cool and I love guitar.

 

[herbpixie]

I think Bowie and Reznor are both almost certainly INTJs, though.

Why? Just curious--I'm somewhat of a newbie. I've always gotten and INTP vibe from Bowie because his humor is so zany/wacky instead of sarcastic, but that may just be narcissism because I adore the guy, and I want him to be an INTP.

 

[Suzy]

I've played the piano for over 10 years. It can be done. In my opinion, most anyone can learn to play an instrument. It's just a matter of practice to get it in your muscle memory.

As for any composition, I'm not sure.

 

[skylights]

My dad's an INTP bassist and guitarist - both acoustic and electric. He can play pretty much anything just by listening to it. He mostly plays jazz and rock, and he's currently in a rock band.

 

[Mycroft]

Why? Just curious--I'm somewhat of a newbie. I've always gotten and INTP vibe from Bowie because his humor is so zany/wacky instead of sarcastic, but that may just be narcissism because I adore the guy, and I want him to be an INTP.

I mean, I can't prove it either way, but that whole "man who fell to earth" vibe is more INTJ-esque to me. He also tends to use familiar ideas in strange and unexpected ways (like the way Let's Dance starts out with the tried-and-true upward vocal sweep that was popular in 50s music before abruptly switching over to disco), whereas INXPs tend to create their own idiosyncratic sound, the way Cobain did and Albini has.

Incidentally, I also think that Frank Black is an INTP, but haven't had the chance to look at YouTube interviews and the like to confirm this. His entire solo debut album is in 2/4 time (if I'm not mistaken) and extremely idiosyncratic. Nothing else I've ever heard sounds anything like it.

 

[Mal12345]

I had the strong desire to play piano as a child, but we had no money to spare for lessons and pianos are expensive. I bought a keyboard in my early 20s and learned to play memorized songs, some were pretty difficult. I never properly learned to read music, not with any speed, or to "separate my hands." And now with my hand the way it is I don't play at all anymore.

 

[ilikeitlikethat]

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[herbpixie]

I mean, I can't prove it either way, but that whole "man who fell to earth" vibe is more INTJ-esque to me. He also tends to use familiar ideas in strange and unexpected ways (like the way Let's Dance starts out with the tried-and-true upward vocal sweep that was popular in 50s music before abruptly switching over to disco), whereas INXPs tend to create their own idiosyncratic sound, the way Cobain did and Albini has.

Incidentally, I also think that Frank Black is an INTP, but haven't had the chance to look at YouTube interviews and the like to confirm this. His entire solo debut album is in 2/4 time (if I'm not mistaken) and extremely idiosyncratic. Nothing else I've ever heard sounds anything like it.

Thanks for the explanation. I think I shall bestow honorary INTP status upon Bowie, whether he is one or not.

I agree with you about Frank Black. I think Isaac Brock may be an INTP as well.

 

[Mycroft]

Thanks for the explanation. I think I shall bestow honorary INTP status upon Bowie, whether he is one or not.

I agree with you about Frank Black. I think Isaac Brock may be an INTP as well.

That's cool, I think an argument can be made for INTP as well, certainly. The moral of the story is that David Bowie is awesome.

To be honest I've never given Modest Mouse much of a listen, but I'll have to look into that. Any recommendations (songs, albums) are welcome!