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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    I find that uber-masculine men are attracted to "challenging" women, be that challenge a physical, mental, or fill-in-the-blank challenge.

    Uber-masculine men wan't to conquer a woman, especially a woman who seems impenetrable, (no pun intended ), to his advances.
    That's quite convenient, since I'm harbouring a secret desire to be ravished.
    Apparently. :rolli:
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Now, the question is....

    Are NT, or T females inherently less feminine than F females?
    I would have to say, "for the most part, yes..."
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    You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this, Zarathustra.

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    ummm... not really...
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    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    The Justice Fighter

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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    I'm confused...

    Is this the part where NT women start claiming that what I've said is due to some problem I have with NT women?

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    Btw, utyuun, are you an INTJ female?

    I've never been quite sure about your sexuality...
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    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    As such, due to the problems I mentioned:

    1. Their masculinity will be attracted to femininity, which -- like their own female masculinity -- will tend to be less present in men.

    2. Deep down, even though they have a masculine exterior, there is some femininity inside her, and that femininity ultimately desires a strong masculine man to unleash it, and to ravish it.

    3. But this creates a conflict, because her exterior masculine face will potentially repel masculine men (once again, due to sexual polarity).

    Now I believe the above is true, and so does my ENFP girlfriend.

    So, how about you deal with the ideas, rather than simply accuse someone of trolling who's never been accused of it, and tell us whether you agree or disagree with the ideas above, and why or why not.
    Look, I've been called masculine before by many different people (and in different contexts), so I MIGHT be inclined to agree with you that NT women tend toward the masculine in some regards, at least as far as general perceptions of masculinity/femininity go. But this list you've posted makes absolutely no sense.

    First, you say that NTs are generally more masculine than a lot of the other types. Then, you go on to say that NT women are really feminine inside, but use a masculine exterior as a mask. So which is it? Are they really masculine, or are they faking it? You've contradicted yourself in your own post. It's hard to take your opinion seriously after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Look, I've been called masculine before by many different people (and in different contexts), so I MIGHT be inclined to agree with you that NT women tend toward the masculine in some regards, at least as far as general perceptions of masculinity/femininity go. But this list you've posted makes absolutely no sense.

    First, you say that NTs are generally more masculine than a lot of the other types. Then, you go on to say that NT women are really feminine inside, but use a masculine exterior as a mask. So which is it? Are they really masculine, or are they faking it? You've contradicted yourself in your own post. It's hard to take your opinion seriously after that.
    Wow.

    So simple-minded...

    Ever heard of complexity?

    The masculine and the feminine can be present in various degrees at various times within the same individual.

    Thus, to say someone is masculine, is to say that one is masculine more of the time, and feminine less of the time.

    I myself am very masculine, but that does not mean that I have no femininity.

    My girlfriend is extremely feminine, but that does not mean that she has no masculinity.

    I understand that you use Ti and all, but try thinking outside the box a little bit...

    To be honest, though, you don't even need to think outside the box for this answer...

    I mean, the answer to your question was in the very post you were asking about:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Deep down, even though they have a masculine exterior, there is some femininity inside her, and that femininity ultimately desires a strong masculine man to unleash it, and to ravish it.
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    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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