[MBTI General] What's the difference between ENTJ & ENFJ thoughts?

[Synapse]

Elucidate the temperament distinctions for me thanks. Situational examples are appreciated.

I was wondering whether this should go to NT or NF as its a bit of both.

 

[teslashock]

ENFJs appear to be nice.

 

[sculpting]

i like entjs. enfjs feel odd to me. I want to like them but it's like we are talking through jello.

However it turns out most other people are terrified of ENTJs. They are just yelling, I mean how bad can that be? Just yell back.

 

[Shaunward]

With ENTJs, you have a better idea of knowing where you stand. My brother is an ENFJ and tries to appease people to their face, making him popular. Then, when their back is turned, he has no problem chewing people up. He will only stand for his principles in front of those that share the same principles. I will always love my baby brother, but I think he's a coward and a snake for that.

 

[INTPness]

The biggest distinctions I've observed between the two types is:

ENFJ: more subjective, more concerned about doing right by people, personal goals usually have a heavy emphasis on successful interpersonal relationships.

ENTJ: more objective, more willing to see people as tools to accomplish things (and more willing to go through people if they present obstacles to the ENTJ), goals usually have a heavy emphasis on inanimate things - business, finances, best method of attack, etc.

 

[Matthew_Z]

Compare and contrast: Your Boss' boss vs your mother

 

[murkrow]

What's the difference between an INTP and an INFP?

 

[highlander]

The biggest distinctions I've observed between the two types is:

ENFJ: more subjective, more concerned about doing right by people, personal goals usually have a heavy emphasis on successful interpersonal relationships.

ENTJ: more objective, more willing to see people as tools to accomplish things (and more willing to go through people if they present obstacles to the ENTJ), goals usually have a heavy emphasis on inanimate things - business, finances, best method of attack, etc.

+1

ENFJ: persuasion

ENTJ: dominance, directive

 

[ceecee]

ENFJ - Will use persuasion and maybe a hug to change your mind.
ENTJ - Will give you a beat down until you see it their way (usually verbal).

 

[Andy]

I think the aim difference is their area of focus. ENFJs are people orientated, ENTJs are thing/event orientated. Each is concerned over there particular area, and so develops skills appropriate.

ENFJs are concerned about people, but they also use people to get the job done. To them people are the issue, the cause of the issue and the cure for the issue. When faced with a problem, they tend to think "who can solve this" rather than "what can solve this".

ENTJs are concered with more material goals. They think "what needs to be done" before they think "who can I rope in as aids". To the ENTJ, people may be part the issue, they may the cure for the issue, but they are not the issue. The issue is getting this bridge built, or whatever.

 

[JustHer]

You people have some funny ideas!

 

[JoSunshine]

ENTJ

ENFJ

Something like that^....

 

[Ezra]

For this distinction I look to their different focuses in life. The Keirsey site offers a good description of the NF and NT ways of looking at life.

Also, the names of the temperaments give a clue as to what the types are about: NTs are "Knowledge Seeking" and NFs are "Identity Seeking". Personally, I see NTs as wanting to understand the way the world works and all the phenomena in it, and NFs as wanting to help people and make a meaningful impact on their lives.

 

[Ezra]

You people have some funny ideas!

I think they all make sense.

 

[corey_vann]

ENFJs appear to be nice.

Key word: "appear"

i like entjs. enfjs feel odd to me. I want to like them but it's like we are talking through jello.

However it turns out most other people are terrified of ENTJs. They are just yelling, I mean how bad can that be? Just yell back.

I agree to an extent. I would love it if an ENFJ would call me on bullshit. Then I would actually know where I stand with them.

In my experience, ENFJs want (need) to be liked (and are usually very likeable) and use their likeableness to get what they want. ENTJs usually don't care how you feel about us, as long as the job gets done. Being liked is more of a bonus.

 

[JustHer]

I think they all make sense.

Make sense, funny... unrelated?

 

[proteanmix]

I think that enneagram differences between ENFJs play a big role here. From my understanding of enneagram, Fe mostly falls into the domain of enneagram 2 where there is more emphasis on being a helper and being loved, liked, and needed.

I am a Fe-dom who is not enneagram 2, I'm enneagram 1. I don't know about any other E1 Fe-doms, but I love deciding who will be first against the wall. But since I'm a two wing, I will make sure to set up a charity fund for the children of the trail of dead I've left behind me.