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[ENTP] ENTPs get no respect?

Kasper

Diabolical
Joined
May 30, 2008
Messages
11,590
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
9w8
Instinctual Variant
so/sx
Te Doms are the types I have the most trouble with, they want to control things by taking over and doing them their own way, my approach to things clashes with theirs. With ENTJs we can at least look at things the same way and respect the others approach, ESTJs and me are not a good mix, even the ones I get along with well, socialise around and share a group of friends with and so on are not a good mix with me. I can see their good points and appreciate that about them but we'll never be on the same page.

Like Sim said, they want to control, I can't handle being controlled so I resist, they don't like that, I don't like that.
 

yenom

Alexander the Terrible
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Messages
1,755
An argument is best back up by a big stick. If you can fight, no one can have shit over you. That is y I highly encourage people to learn martial arts.
 

Qre:us

New member
Joined
Nov 21, 2008
Messages
4,890
If I get no respect, I will not continuously put myself in that position, again and again. It is unfathomable for me to understand putting up with disrespect. Either I take myself OUT of the situation, or reshape my approach to get an IN into the situation.

With ESTJs (my dad is one), there's a lot of head-butting because I don't back down when he throws Te at me, and, in those moments, I love getting him riled up more and more (it's a game to me then). The lack of respect in those situations, becomes a TWO-WAY street.

Otherwise, there's a mutual admiration and respect between us, as they appreciate that I can't be so easily malleable and we meet at the Ne level. My dom Ne to their tertiary child-like fascination with Ne. We make mad jokes between us.
 

corey_vann

New member
Joined
Aug 22, 2009
Messages
153
MBTI Type
ENTJ
Enneagram
8sx
How young is he. Whe i was younger an aggressive ExTJ could destroy me. Try help him to develop his wit because once an ENTP is comfortable using his wit in social situation then they can take 2 ESTJs no problem. Its a confidence thing.

He's 21 or 22. I think it's when he's trying to be witty that gets him in trouble, at least with the ESTJs. This may sound like a stupid question, but how do you develop wit? Aside from watching Monty Python I wouldn't know where to start. I've never had this problem.
 
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