Sometimes rhetoric won't work. By taking positive action I've won over most of the team and made myself look like the good guy. Strategically it's also a good move as I've aligned myself with management and have made myself stand out from the rest, which looks good should promotion opportunites arise. There can be no objections from staff not implementing change and if they don't accept my help they're one step closer to getting themselves fired.
I would agree with you though: this is normally NEVER my style either. As an INTJ I normally like to do my own thing. But in the absence of any other option, someone needed to show leadership.
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Thread: INTJ: stress in meetings
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06-06-2009, 07:20 AM #11
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06-06-2009, 09:07 AM #12
Blowing up at people and shaming them is neither a respectable nor an effective management practice, not to mention that the inevitable repercussions will do your blood pressure no good, as you've discovered. INTJs may still rise to the top in spite of such shortcomings (and I'm sure some would argue that taking incompetence and/or indifference as a personal affront goes with the territory of internalizing the goals of the company as a necessary means to reaching the top), but IMO we do well to cultivate some empathy and practice some diplomacy, thus making people more receptive to our leadership. That's called a win-win situation, which last I heard is something INTJs are supposed to embrace unreservedly.
Although I grant you that understanding how to deal with people is easier than actually consistently dealing with them in that way. For instance, if I had practiced what I just preached in this post, you would probably have taken to it much better than you are now, so why didn't I?
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06-06-2009, 09:41 AM #13
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06-07-2009, 06:43 AM #16
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06-07-2009, 11:51 AM #17Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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05-26-2019, 11:34 AM #18
When I'm amongst groups of people, there usually is some amount of anxiety. I think of scenarios relating to what is being talked about, but I may not have the experience to give my two cents. Once the conversation is flowing, I may contribute a bit but I am definitely reluctant at first. I try not to let it show too much but sit there quietly often.
Once I warm up though, I try to get a word in edgewise. I don't want to step on any toes or say the wrong thing at the wrong time. I know it would be beneficial to get some questions out there, it would help to learn the ropes of how the place works. What is said often moves faster than my brain can think of a response. At work, the few meetings I've been to, I usually don't know what to say but I pay attention. I guess if there are more meetings, I might get used to the flow and contribute more.9w1 5w4 2w3 sp/so
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05-26-2019, 10:24 PM #19
i don't know, but it's a skill i need to learn too. learning when to shut your mouth is a skill it seems, but also difficult if you feel it's wrong to stay quiet.
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