[ENTP] ENTP...gone haywire?

[thisGuy]

mods, please dont move this to that type confused section just yet...im specifically looking for Nx viewpoints

I’m an ENTP, no doubt about it. The descriptions match. The cognitive functions, as far as I can identify, match...

BUT there have been a fair number of times when I would come across as an ENFP in my decision making. At first, I couldn’t explain it and so I reread the descriptions …but ended up with ENTP cuz:
-I can identify with it
-I have like no Fi

I think why my decision making, at times, comes across as ENFP is because I decided a long time ago (way before I knew bout MBTI) that though I can be a hardcore NT, it would be healthier for me and the world (in the grand scheme of things) if I always do the 'right thing' which is consciously choose to care about other people as well...basically, not being a complete asshole. Doing this doesn’t always make me happy but I do feel content in knowing I did the right thing regardless of the consequences.

Or maybe it’s just a well developed Fe?

OR, on the other end of the scale, could I be an ENFP with a needle pricking me on the side that makes me somewhat of an asshole towards everyone else?

I should mention that I come from a fairly traditional and religious background where god is the ultimate doer and karma plays a very important role…don’t make this a debate bout god…please.

Anyone else have similar experiences?

 

[thisGuy]

i do have an INTP buddy and an ENFP buddy to use as references and usually im more like the INTP but there are some subjects where i tend to agree with the ENFP more

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

Or maybe it’s just a well developed Fe?

Yes.


And I feel the same way you do, regarding morality.

 

[Kasper]

Yup. I've been called an ENFP numerous times by other NTs because what's 'right' matters to me as much as what is correct. The difference for me is deciding to care about what's 'right' is clearly a choice for me.

 

[runvardh]

Dude, how old are you?

 

[thisGuy]

20

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

Dude, how old are you?

That was rude.

 

[thisGuy]

That was rude.

whatever...puts shit in perspective for him/her

 

[runvardh]

20

Not bad, you should be developing your Fe anyway. Also, my roommate is ENTP; he's 30, but has had a well developed sense of right and wrong for a while.

That was rude.

I'm still waking up, you want polite try me IRL in about an hour.

whatever...puts shit in perspective for him/her

Basically what I was up to.

 

[Asterion]

I realized that I'm not an ENFP pretty quickly, Just spend a while talking to them and you see the differences. They are pretty similar types though, I've heard people say that it's difficult to type ENXPs because they are rather rounded (or something like that). I still have some crazy dude running around trying to convince me that I'm an INFP!?! (although it's still a possiblity -damned perception!!!).

I'm trying to understand Fe atm (not trying particularly hard mind you). I remember seeing something about Fe being the function that ENTPs revert to when people start to disengage from them, which results in them wanting to be liked by others more or something?

I'd like to point out that there are actually religious INTPs around, I'm sure ENTPs can do the same thing.

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

... I remember seeing something about Fe being the function that ENTPs revert to when people start to disengage from them, which results in them wanting to be liked by others more or something? ...

For me, it has nothing to do with being liked.


I don't revert to anything. It's just there. If someone is in trouble, I want to help. If I think I can help most by not speaking, I'll do that. If I think my opinion can help, I'll give it. If I've committed to someone, I keep my commitment.


If there is no one in need of anything, there's nothing for my Fe to do.

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

If anything, it has more to do with my own arrogance in thinking I'm the one who can help.

 

[Asterion]

For me, it has nothing to do with being liked.


I don't revert to anything. It's just there. If someone is in trouble, I want to help. If I think I can help most by not speaking, I'll do that. If I think my opinion can help, I'll give it. If I've committed to someone, I keep my commitment.


If there is no one in need of anything, there's nothing for my Fe to do.

That makes a great deal of sense, I do exactly the same I think , I didn't know that was Fe? Would an Fi do this?

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

That makes a great deal of sense, I do exactly the same I think , I didn't know that was Fe? Would an Fi do this?

I have no Fi whatsoever. I mean, I guess everyone has to, but mine is pathetic.

 

[Asterion]

I'm not doubting your lack of Fi, I'm doubting mine , but there's a fair mix of curiosity in there too. I think Fi would probably do the same if it lined up with their moral values.

 

[BlahBlahNounBlah]

Maybe ENTP Fe is there as a result of what we've decided is the most logical way to live our lives.


I see plenty to dislike about the world, for instance. But it seems illogical to dwell on that instead of just doing what I can to change it. What's the point of whining about the way things are?

 

[CJ99]

I can see where you are coming from. Having ESTJ and ESFJ parents made me keep a cap on the Ne and become more Si when a kid i think so I developed Ti and Si more and the Ne didn't show as much on the outside though it was there. I think the Si more than the Fe made me care about right and wrong and what was expected and made me quieter.

However I've noticed that as I let my Ne flourish i've found myself caring about how other feel more and generally being more aware of others feelings. Its less about right and wrong and more about actually enjoying helping others to develop.

I don't think your going haywire just going through a sort of mental puberty of Fe.

 

[jenocyde]

Yup. I've been called an ENFP numerous times by other NTs because what's 'right' matters to me as much as what is correct. The difference for me is deciding to care about what's 'right' is clearly a choice for me.

I don't revert to anything. It's just there. If someone is in trouble, I want to help. If I think I can help most by not speaking, I'll do that. If I think my opinion can help, I'll give it. If I've committed to someone, I keep my commitment.

Maybe ENTP Fe is there as a result of what we've decided is the most logical way to live our lives.

+1000

I have very little Fi, things just don't affect me. But I have a strong Fe, which I take to be a sense of ethics. I defend the little guy often. But ironically, it's not because I care about the actual little guy, it's because the injustice itself bothers me. But of course, I am the sole decider of what is ethical and just. It has to make reasonable, logical sense - it's not based on how I feel about something, per se - it has to be a well reasoned and fair argument.

 

[entropie]

+1000

I have very little Fi, things just don't affect me. But I have a strong Fe, which I take to be a sense of ethics. I defend the little guy often. But ironically, it's not because I care about the actual little guy, it's because the injustice itself bothers me. But of course, I am the sole decider of what is ethical and just. It has to make reasonable, logical sense - it's not based on how I feel about something, per se - it has to be a well reasoned and fair argument.

You have no clue about Fe

You live it but you dont feel it

 

[jenocyde]

You have no clue about Fe

You live it but you dont feel it

You're right, I have no clue about it. I came on this site to learn more, but I don't think I have. Please educate me - I beg of you. (I am being genuine)