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[INTP] Shadow functions- INTP

Risen

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Can someone possible explain the whole theory of "shadow functions" to me, and possible what it means for an INTP?
 

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To sum it up short.

When you're pissed of you become an evil ESFJ.
 

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Only when the morning sun blinds your eyes.

The shadow is ahead when you do not see the sun.

*Pokes wildcat with a stick*

Dude...he is SO stoned right now! :party:
 

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To sum it up short.

When you're pissed of you become an evil ESFJ.

Basically. The idea is that your normal ways of handling things (strongest functions) come up short and can't solve a problem/situation. The extreme stress leaves your mind frantically looking for a new option, and you use functions that you hardly ever deal with (weaker functions a.k.a. "shadow" functions?). So your personality is turned upside-down, kind of...
 

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Hokum. ESFJ is the last type I act like, no matter how I feel. And angry ESFJs don't act a bit like INTPs either.
 

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To sum it up short.

When you're pissed of you become an evil ESFJ.

No. Shadow functions for the INTP are Te, Ni, Se, Fi.

I don't think they apply very often. I don't really know much about them.
 

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Ok, thanks. I was able to find a measly amount of info on the net. Can anyone recommend any good sources of info on this subject, and books or websites?
 

Athenian200

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Can someone possible explain the whole theory of "shadow functions" to me, and possible what it means for an INTP?

Whose shadow theory? The details differ depending on which interpretation you refer to.

Shadow functions are, in general, those one tends to use unconsciously and ignore when operating normally. In fact, the functions can become more likely to malfunction when too much attention is paid to them, than when they are allowed to function unconsciously and as a supplement to your stronger functions.

According to one model, one begins to manifest negative, distorted characteristics of the opposite type under stress or illness. In an INTPs case, this would be ESFJ. In practice, this means an INTP shows immature Si and Fe characteristics under stress. Note that these traits are normally shown by projecting them onto others while failing to recognize them in oneself, rather than in a simple, direct way.

According to another model, the first four functions are conscious functions, and the other four are unconscious. Therefore an INTPs shadow in this system would involve Te, Ni, Fi, and Se, and thus involve a mix of negative/destructive NTJ and SFP behaviors. Again, there's usually a degree of projection and denial associated with the shadow.
 

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From researching about "shadow" functions, it can be concluded that they are either destructive or supportive to your main functions.
In the case of the INTP:
The dominant function of Introverted Thinking can be supported by the role of Extraverted Thinking. In this instance, once you have applied Ti, Te will help you further to develop your analysis, plan etc. So in other words, you can be competent in applying Te however it will be used with narrow application since it requires greater strength to use it independently.

They in a sense follow your dominant functions pattern, with the exception of a reversed E/I mode. So depending on your individual development, Te and Ni might be functions which are used easily for a handful of INTP's (bearing in mind that shadow processes strengthen over time).
The shadow processes are by far, not the most lethal or worst processes if they are used consciously. (Ask yourself, would my Ni be weaker then using Fe more openly.) Chances are in the INTP, not really because both Feeling functions aren't used considerably :angry: and so Shadow processes just determine the helpfulness towards the Dominant Functions as opposed to actually being a set pattern of unproductive modes.
 

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No. Shadow functions for the INTP are Te, Ni, Se, Fi.

I don't think they apply very often. I don't really know much about them.

So that would mean they would act like evil ENTJ's?
 

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So should ENTPs get along best with INTPs since they both share Ne/Ti, likewise with ENTJs and INTJs and their Te/Ni?

Here's an illustration.

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xNTPs have the opposite function of xNTJs it seems. I suppose this works for all types? Sorry I'm new to all this.
 

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So should ENTPs get along best with INTPs since they both share Ne/Ti, likewise with ENTJs and INTJs and their Te/Ni?

Here's an illustration.

1bB8w


xNTPs have the opposite function of xNTJs it seems. I suppose this works for all types? Sorry I'm new to all this.

from what i have noticed, NTJs dont really understand NTPs, but i dont think this says anything about how they get along.

what comes to shadow function, shadow means the opposite of your ego(central operating system in the field of consciousness), so if your dominant function is T, it is shadowed by F, I has an E shadow etc.

some new school theories(which i call bullshit) say that shadow of Ti is Te, which is just misuse of the word shadow in its original sense and has quite different definition for shadow that the original typology had.
 

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I am a shadow function.

The medium I apply my brain power to is a learned one, because of my father's work ethic of
'Work on your act in your day job before you act at work.'
Was around when I was growing up.

"Kinda made my inny an outy."
 

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So should ENTPs get along best with INTPs since they both share Ne/Ti, likewise with ENTJs and INTJs and their Te/Ni?

Here's an illustration.

1bB8w


xNTPs have the opposite function of xNTJs it seems. I suppose this works for all types? Sorry I'm new to all this.

In my experience, yes. NTP and NTJ butt heads a lot, I find. I sorta want to punch every NTJ I know in the throat just to watch them struggle in vain for breath - SHADOW FUNCTION PUNCH!!! - but only kinda. Whereas I get along smashingly with all the ENTPs I know. Kindred spirits. We just dream up cool ideas all day and then they try to get me to implement for them... and then I don't and then we get a bit frustrated... but then we go back to the cool ideas.

I really wish I could get along with NTJs - they seem like they'd have a lot more follow-through with ideas. The problem is, they so internalize their ideas that there is not a lot of room for discussions... and the complaining about everything thing gets really old really fast.
 
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