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[NT] Ever Felt Like a Feeler?

kaboom

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I am honestly Effing Confused. I never though of T vs. F as one having emotions while the other is a robot.

WTF, is that even possible to just repress emotions like rage, love, aggrevation, etc?

Does this make the person a robot?

The way I always pictured F vs. T was:

F = Subjective approach
T = Objective approach

So is it confirmed that most immature T's would not feel emotions as the rest of the population?

We don't repress them. That is something many F types don't get....they assume we must be repressing emotions. We just do not feel them to the degree that others do.
I dare say that even a mature T does not feel emotion like an F.
But we do have them.
And when we have them...we need to make heads and tails of them. So in addition to not feeling to the same degree...there is also the issue of how we cope with them...notice my use of words...because T's often are very uncomfortable with feelings while F's seem to ...love them...as I was saying...we have to cope with them or handle them, as well as figure out how they should be expressed. Yelling "I love you" off the roof top probably isn't going to happen.
My T guy( who has more F than I...a lot more) and I stood on a roof top..and argued about if a bird was a goose or a duck...that was sort of like saying "I love you" for us.
 

iwakar

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This is a great strategy.

Color as an ideal rhythm. A personalized language that explores emotions not spontaneously available within the dialect of our everyday discourse.

Almost like singing in the shower. What matters isn't adherence to precise lyrics, but instead an examination of individuality - as an artistic technique.

Night, if you keep up that sort of beatific banter, you're gonna get laid by a starry-eyed NF without intending to...
or is it unintentional.

/ponder
 

Angry Ayrab

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Just to get a clearer picture, I am a bit confused, so sorry if this is annoying.

Let us say that both my brother and I are sensitive to a certain slur of sorts. He is a T and I am an F, and we both really sit on the other sides of the spectrum. If some one was to say the word to me, do you think I would be more enraged, than he would.

Personally, I would believe that both of us would be equally enraged by our reaction, but I could never tell you who felt that actual emotion more. The latter part would actually be impossible to quantify.

Hmmm.... Odd, I always thought that T and F had nothing to do with emotions, just stupid wording, but then again I could be wrong.
 

colmena

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NTs usually strike me as having greater depth of passion. That suppressed Beautiful Mind idea at lower levels.

I don't know where it comes from. It doesn't seem to be maturity related.

Then some just seem dead to beauty and creativity...
 

Salomé

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WTF, is that even possible to just repress emotions like rage, love, aggrevation, etc?
Yes. See Migraine, Asthma, etc.

Fs can repress emotion as much as Ts do though - i.e. not type specific (in fact Fs are more likely to repress "inappropriate" emotions).

One represses because one feels too much, not too little.

The way I always pictured F vs. T was:

F = Subjective approach
T = Objective approach
Yes.

We don't repress them. That is something many F types don't get....they assume we must be repressing emotions. We just do not feel them to the degree that others do.
I dare say that even a mature T does not feel emotion like an F.
But we do have them.
Untrue.

And when we have them...we need to make heads and tails of them. ...there is also the issue of how we cope with them...notice my use of words...because T's often are very uncomfortable with feelings while F's seem to ...love them...as I was saying...we have to cope with them or handle them, as well as figure out how they should be expressed.

TRUE.

I used to think that no-one felt things as deeply as I did. The perceived superficiality/fickleness of other people disgusted me.
I only feel my own feelings, not other peoples' (=empathy).

Just because we don't vomit emotion everywhere (out of consideration and decorum) doesn't mean we don't feel stuff.
I can have powerful but private reactions to emotive material, if it is handled in a subtle and original way.
But I don't need someone else's art to open me up.
Melodrama/sentimentality = horrifying.

Yelling "I love you" off the roof top probably isn't going to happen.

=E vs I not T vs F?

In any event, not a valid measurement of depth of feeling.
 

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bluemonday, I completely agree with everything you wrote.

The difference between me a T and my F friends is that their first response is to feel, rather than consider or analyze. Also, their decisions tended to be based on their feelings or how other people do or will feel. I would forget to include feelings in my analysis.

I'm a T and I have strong emotions but I think of them as very intense at the bottom of a very deep well. You have to go a long, long way down to reach them and chances are you will stop one way or another before your get there.
 

Totenkindly

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...so my question to any NT's out there, have you ever felt this way? other temperaments are welcome to answer as well.

My first internal response was sort of snarky: "I dunno -- have you ever thought like a Thinker?" lol...!

The main idea that leaps out to me is, how would you know what a Feeler feels like if you are a Thinker? You might THINK you can guess... but you'll never know. It's just like a man asking himself if he's ever felt like a woman feels, and vice versa; there's no way to confirm anything.

All that being said, the older I get, the more I allow myself to have responses all across the board rather than just constantly feeling uncomfortable and having to channel myself back into the functions I was most comfortable with growing up. It's okay to feel, and sense, and think, and intuit, whenever it happens. I am much more "go with the moment" than I ever used to be, and I don't immediately try to clamp everything down with rigorous intellectualism.

If I really want to understand life and what it means to be human, I need to be open to a variety of experience and stimulation. Plus it's also just part of being alive.

(Of course, there she goes... saying all this intellectually. Obviously my intellect still drive things. But at least it is letting lots of other things pop up to experience now.)
 

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The difference between me a T and my F friends is that their first response is to feel, rather than consider or analyze. Also, their decisions tended to be based on their feelings or how other people do or will feel. I would forget to include feelings in my analysis.

I'm a T and I have strong emotions but I think of them as very intense at the bottom of a very deep well. You have to go a long, long way down to reach them and chances are you will stop one way or another before your get there.

Yes, this too.
I think this is the personal values vs. objective values thing tho'. Which isn't really about emotion, although there may be emotional content.

I often don't know how I Feel about something, until I do, at which point it can be overwhelming. I especially can't project how I will Feel about something. This is a problem when making decisions. It also means I can't prepare myself for bad eventualities very well.
 

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The main idea that leaps out to me is, how would you know what a Feeler feels like if you are a Thinker? You might THINK you can guess... but you'll never know. It's just like a man asking himself if he's ever felt like a woman feels, and vice versa; there's no way to confirm anything.
I'm not sure I've ever felt like a woman feels ;)

But how can we know if any of our experience is mirrored by others?
Don't we have to assume that some human experience is shared/common?
And can't we identify with what others say/write/otherwise express about how they feel? Or are you saying that raw emotion transcends anything that can be communicated?
 

Nocapszy

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And wrong.
What about those who've no interest in the shared elegance, but in the elegance of their temperament?
What about those who push themselves to the outer limits of their temperament, which, in so doing would enhance their ability to proliferate, the very variance, among other things, enjoyed by those balanced individuals?

I posit that a mature individual would know his place and further himself.
 

ajblaise

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Yeah, on MDMA... I felt like an uber ENFP.
 

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I was almost robotic until I was about eighteen, then it all came crashing down, somehow.... I don't know if i'm going to congratulate you or not; because while you made your life more enjoyable, you also made it a lot harder.

Ah, the robotic days. I had a few years of that myself when I was in my teens. I became very cold, detached... and to be honest, I functioned really well... though I was surely missing the boat a lot of the time. I've come to the conclusion that those years were wasted. I don't remember what exactly "defrosted" me, but I'm very grateful. I wouldn't live life any other way.

I feel. It's what I do with it that may be different than what an F would do... I really don't know. I only know my own experience. I've never been inside the head of someone else before. Sometimes I don't even know what it is that I'm feeling, or why I am feeling it, so I analyze to find out. Occasionally, I come to the conclusion that my feelings are completely irrational, therefore they're disregarded. But oddly enough, by and large when I'm feeling something it's important. So a lot of the time I "follow my heart" as long as it's fully backed up by my head. This has never steered me wrong.

So I guess I look at feelings as potentially being the "voice" of facts that I have not yet taken into consideration. They're important.
 

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Yeah, on MDMA... I felt like an uber ENFP.

LMFAO, that is not the first time I have heard that one.

I have never tried the stuff (and don't plan too), but had to baby sit people before. More than six people have told me, this must be what you feel like all the time. This was said while they were on it, so I don't know how much credence to give that. :D
 

A Schnitzel

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Not really.

I wish that could be so.
Alas, the closest I will ever get is to feel the feelers.
 

blanclait

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man these NT's are such a bunch of pansies :smile:.

that hurts my feelings you know :D

@YourLocalJesus
ha, and i just had my 18th yesterday.

@Jennifer
Basically what i wanted to say is my emotion overrode my reasonings (principles, beliefs, etc) not for a moment but for days.
It just reminded me of when i was young. Back then I was pretty close with my feeling side, i sometimes cried watching dramas, sensitive to people's feeling, etc
i still have no idea how i became this way lol... :doh:
 

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^ my advice to you... find a cute puppy... that'll show you! ;)
 

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sadly.. i can't find anything cute... or sexy...
for me its like "oh.. i guess is kinda cute.."
 

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sadly.. i can't find anything cute... or sexy...
for me its like "oh.. i guess is kinda cute.."

Hmmm. I think that will need a massive prescription of pornography, followed by swift cessation and limited access to females. You can follow that up with gay porn to really say where your interests lie or go out a bit and talk to some girls. If that is to large a leap romance movies will suffice. If you see no improvements in two weeks you might not have a penis :shock:
 

blanclait

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:D

It must definitely be the years of studying women's body and clothes + life drawing.
when i see naked people, i see work.

But to think of it, i think there are things i find cute.
For eg. "little things" some girls do, i find it adorable. But that must contain element of plot, chara develop, etc.. so for those, like i said before i read novels. But for that one moment of "awee" i must invest like 3 hrs.

As for the porn movies, i dont think i will ever watch them until they start coming up with more original plots (but that's impossible:newwink:)
 
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