Famous historical NF's

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Same story as the NT one, and I'll start by proposing St Francis of Assisi as ENFP. I don't think I need to explain who he was... or I should hope not...!

[Totenkindly]

St. John of the Cross ("Dark Night of the Soul") - INFP

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St. John of the Cross ("Dark Night of the Soul") - INFP

Yeah I think I'll go with you on that one.

But as you know, I'm a Franciscan Tertiary headed for friar-dom someday - and I'm coming to think that St Francis might've made the switch from ENFP to INFP over the course of his life. It just seems to me like Fi became increasingly dominant in him in his last 5 years or so, and I think it had overtaken his Ne by the time he was near death. Of course, this doesn't follow the rules of what we were saying in the 'change type' thread, since like, heavy spiritual stuff is involved!

[Totenkindly]

Another important question: What is it like to be in a monastery? To me, it seems to heavily accentuate the Ti/Fi functions (and especially Fi), and give less opportunity to use Se/Ne depending on how much one remains in isolation.

Se/Ne both need a constant flow of exterior information in order to function. But monks generally get their flow internally. (There's a reason that INxJ's are tied to "mysticism" and the monastic lifestyle.)

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Another important question: What is it like to be in a monastery? To me, it seems to heavily accentuate the Ti/Fi functions (and especially Fi), and give less opportunity to use Se/Ne depending on how much one remains in isolation.

Se/Ne both need a constant flow of exterior information in order to function. But monks generally get their flow internally. (There's a reason that INxJ's are tied to "mysticism" and the monastic lifestyle.)

Types of community vary very widely, from the cloistered-away Carthusians and silent orders, to the peripatetic and exuberant Franciscans, who are very much involved in activities not only outside their community, but also hosting them within their walls as well. Also, even the ones that don't interact much with the outside world, still have intense and regular interaction with each other, inside the walls, and so there is considerable scope (and need) for difference of personality!

Anyway, back to the topic!

[The Ü™]

I thought St. Francis was an ISFP.

Salvador Dali, maybe an ENFP?

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I thought St. Francis was an ISFP.

Salvador Dali, maybe an ENFP?

Dunno about Dali, but you have got to be kidding about SF being an S!

[The Ü™]

Dunno about Dali, but you have got to be kidding about SF being an S!

Now that you mention it, I think I have to agree with you, based on my own personal research -- most sources, though, such as Type Talk label him as an ISFP.

I really gotta stop reading Keirsey...to him, all artists are ISFPs.

I personally think Steven Spielberg is an ENFP, as well -- I've talked to people who have met him, and they say he's got a wild imagination.

Ingmar Bergman, INFP

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, ENFP

L. Frank Baum, INFP

Pablo Picasso, ENFP

Michaelangelo, ENFP

Oscar Wilde, ENFP

Helen Keller, INFP (She couldn't possibly be a Sensor because she couldn't sense much of anything!)

Stephen King, INFP

Charles Manson, ENFP

And as far as I'm concerned, I think most of the religious leaders are SJs.

[The Ü™]

Oh, and I forgot:

Santa Claus, ENFP

[SolitaryWalker]

Michaelangelo an ENFP?

May be..I dont know much about his biography other than that he was very solitary and a morose individual..he didnt have this ..active...larger than life--upbeat force that dwells in most ENFPs...

And Santa Claus..doesnt he resemble more a conventional drone rather than a naive bliss seeking venturer with chief concern of bringing paradise to Earth?


Kierkegaard-INFP
Virgil-INFP
Dante-INFJ
Schopenhauer-INFJ
Dostoevksy-INFJ
Tolstoy-ENFP
Pushkin-ENFP
Turgenev-ENFJ
Simone De Beauvoir-INFJ
Plato-INFJ
Wittgenstein-INFJ
Shakespeare-INFP
Augustine-INFP
Aquinas-INFJ