sculpting
New member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2009
- Messages
- 4,148
This is a theoretical question, not one about a specific situation.
To begin, let me illustrate how I grow and change. I do this, not to be self centric, or ask for ways to change this but instead to be an illustration of what seems to be an ENFP archetypical pattern:
A specific incident with another ENFP, my son:
********************************************************************
Can you guys help me understand what the symmetric pattern or series of steps would be for an FJ? I expect they may seem similar at first, but the details may differ somewhat???
something like:
Any ideas or thoughts?
To begin, let me illustrate how I grow and change. I do this, not to be self centric, or ask for ways to change this but instead to be an illustration of what seems to be an ENFP archetypical pattern:
1. First I seek honest feedback from someone I trust
2. I seek emotional affirmation that I am a valued person and have worth and am accepted as I am.
3. I then seek a generalized example of what the issue is and why it impacts others
4. Then I seek concrete guidlines and very specific feedback on exactly what and how I need to change
2. I seek emotional affirmation that I am a valued person and have worth and am accepted as I am.
3. I then seek a generalized example of what the issue is and why it impacts others
4. Then I seek concrete guidlines and very specific feedback on exactly what and how I need to change
A specific incident with another ENFP, my son:
1. My son trusts me as his mother, thus we have an established relationship.
2. I say "I love you and you are a good hearted peron with good intents, but...
3. "you need to be more aware of how not picking up the house and helping out impacts your step-mom. It causes her stress and hurts her feelings, as it looks like you dont care about her"
4. "Start by taking the garbage out every morning, picking up after dinner and washing your own clothes..."
2. I say "I love you and you are a good hearted peron with good intents, but...
3. "you need to be more aware of how not picking up the house and helping out impacts your step-mom. It causes her stress and hurts her feelings, as it looks like you dont care about her"
4. "Start by taking the garbage out every morning, picking up after dinner and washing your own clothes..."
********************************************************************
Can you guys help me understand what the symmetric pattern or series of steps would be for an FJ? I expect they may seem similar at first, but the details may differ somewhat???
something like:
1. A trusted person (what is trusted? how is this determined?)
2. "You are a clever person with good ideas..."
3. "but you are being irrational/rude/disrespectful/chaotic/self centered and causing unease to those around you by your behaviors and you really should be more aware of how you impact others
4. Fe-isms??
(Pls note this is simply an NeTe guess, just to provide structure to the discussion and is in no way meant to be "right"-I am actually seeking correction and clarification and understanding
2. "You are a clever person with good ideas..."
3. "but you are being irrational/rude/disrespectful/chaotic/self centered and causing unease to those around you by your behaviors and you really should be more aware of how you impact others
4. Fe-isms??
(Pls note this is simply an NeTe guess, just to provide structure to the discussion and is in no way meant to be "right"-I am actually seeking correction and clarification and understanding
Any ideas or thoughts?