Random questions:
1- What do you think about INTPs?
2- What would you do if you had a time machine?
3- Does money bring happiness?
4- What would you do with one billion dollars?
1. Frustrating, because they can be so awesome and so maddening at the same time. But then I have a tendency to attract the crazy ones...assuming there are ones who aren't crazy.
2. Definitely messing around in another era; hopefully I will obliterate the future in the process. I'm not interested in re-living my own past so as to correct mistakes.
And what's up with INTPs & their time travel obsession? Seriously,
every single one I've known...
3. Of course not, but it sure makes misery more comfortable.
4. Get the hell out of this town, buy lots of amazing clothes, live a life of leisure dominated by personal creative & humanitarian projects... Oh yeah, invest some of it, give some of it away to support what I deem significant, & other responsible stuff. I actually am TOO level-headed with my money most of the time, so blowing some money would be a refreshing change of pace for me.
I am so awed and impressed with this. Could you elaborate on it a little more?
The more I talk to NFs, the more amazed I am with the level to which you embrace your feelings and seem to have an intuitive (not in the MBTI sense) understanding of how they work and what they mean. The idea that you could protect your feelings in a little bubble while you go off and do something else is completely foreign to me.
This quote explains it best, imo:
Effective dominant Introverted Feeling types accept the nuances of feeling they experience as natural and welcome evidence of their own inner complexity. But feelings and emotions intruding into the consciousness of an Extraverted Thinking type who is in the grip of inferior Introverted Feeling asare experienced as so alien and overwhelming that they are inexpressible. From a Thinking point of view, the eruption of "illogical," uncontrolled, and disorderly feelings is like being at the mercy of strange and overwhelming forces that threaten a person's equilibrium, if not his or her whole existence.
I was in the middle of responding to this when the site went offline
The post I made in response to you in the other thread about smart women & the men who don't love them touches on the reason for this (what Naomi Quenk states about inferior Fi).
It has to do with the inferior function being "undifferentiated". Feeling in the inferior is far more sentimental than in the dominant, which is why it feels so irrational & out of control, and like it needs to be repressed, caged, dismissed, etc.
In the dominant, Feeling is arguably at its most abstract, meaning it's as fully separated from other elements (like emotions & memories) as a thought process can be (since neuroscience informs us there is NO clear line between cognition & emotion).
For a Fi type, emotions are internalized & used as signals of value, so they're not scary unless they call on the Fi type to act in some external way regarding them. If there is a demand for some expression, and the if you're a Fe-tard (which I am), then there can be a problem with feeling overwhelmed. I think for me it actually triggers competency issues, which is inferior Te, but Je stuff tends to trigger it regardless.
When I was younger, I would purposely seek to stir emotions up in myself, in private & often via art (music, literature, etc), simply because it was fascinating to me. It was like a science experiment.... What could I learn about the nature of people in this sort of internal test zone?
It's not so much being intuitive about Feeling & emotions as spending a lot of time "studying" such things up close for a loooong time, since infancy probably.
I always think of scientific classifications as a sort of illustration for Te thinking, and Fi is like the inverse of it. It's an inner, value classification; there's a seeking to make sense of things. It's just a lot less, er,
dry than Thinking appears.
Since emotions are largely used in such a way for a Fi type, there is a devaluation of anything which is not able to be used in this way. That means other people's emotions can be seen as "irrelevant data" when it comes to MY feelings, which are rational classifications of value (although again, experienced less dry &, er, coldly - although it can appear dry & cold at times). This is also why it WILL irritate me if I get the sense that someone is trying to influence my feeling with their feelings & emotions. If I feel the barrier is trying to be broken down, then I might stubbornly resist it & then I really can look cold & dismissive.
I'm reminded of this passage from Jung on Fi:
Any stormy emotion, however, will be struck down with murderous coldness, unless it happens to catch the woman on her unconscious side - that is, unless it hits her feelings by arousing a primordial image. In that case, she simply feels paralyzed for the moment, and this in due course invariably produces an even more obstinate resistance which will hit the other person in his most vulnerable spot. As far as possible, the relation of feeling to the object is kept to the safe middle path, where passion and its intemperateness are resolutely tabooed. Expression of feeling, therefore, remains niggardly, and the other person has a permanent sense of being undervalued once he becomes conscious of it.
I think you'll find this is less true of Fe types, and when they do manage to walk away untouched, it's for different reasons.
I'll calmly and innocently ask them questions about their wrong opinion, collecting as much information as I need, and then I'll "take them down". But I'll only do that if I think it's worth it; if I don't think they have a chance at changing, I won't even try, but I'll still ask all the questions just so I feel like I understand their opinion.
that question.
