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[Other] NFs, would you marry an atheist?

NFs, would you marry an atheist?

  • NO - I'm an INFJ

    Votes: 10 8.8%
  • NO - I'm an ENFJ

    Votes: 4 3.5%
  • NO - I'm an INFP

    Votes: 8 7.1%
  • NO - I'm an ENFP

    Votes: 9 8.0%
  • YES - I'm an INFJ

    Votes: 25 22.1%
  • YES - I'm an ENFJ

    Votes: 6 5.3%
  • YES - I'm an INFP

    Votes: 29 25.7%
  • YES - I'm an ENFP

    Votes: 22 19.5%

  • Total voters
    113

Rasofy

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Since most NFs have a tendency to believe in ''something bigger'', i was wondering if you would necessarily expect the same from your special one.
Thoughts? :huh:

Edit: Please answer the poll, if you don't mind .
 
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Yes, I don't really see what the problem would be, unless they have the intent to force their beliefs on me. All I expect from a "special one" is to respect me and our relationship and not do anything to jeopardize that deliberately.

It is possible I lean towards agnosticism or something like that, I don't really care for any kind of strongly held beliefs for either sides.
 

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It depends on their attitude with their belief. It is not like I particularly strong believe in things right now, I feel more like an agnostic. I couldn't deal with a person which constantly tries to persuade me into a certain religion, or into atheism just as well. I have made bad experience with openly atheistic persons in that regard that they have to project it always so strongly on others and have their agenda in convincing others from it, including looking down and insulting on believing people. But I guess I wouldn't mind if the person was atheistic but does not do this "missionary" stuff.

I answered "Yes" on the poll since in the end it depends on the person.
 

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Ive never met a complete true Atheist that did not try to force their beliefs on me, and act or sometimes straight up SAY that I was naive (at best) for having any spiritual beliefs, Ive met a few who self identify as atheists, but are technically Agnostic atheists (they believe in atheism, but believe its possible they could be wrong, and often that other people aren't necessarily stupid/naive for believing in something spiritual/religious.) and one of them is one of my closest friends... the other agnostic atheists ive met are really great to... I voted No however as an Agnostic atheist, is well, not an atheist, I could see myself marrying an Agnostic or Agnostic atheist... but I do not believe i will ever meet an Atheist that respects my beliefs... not to say its impossible, I just consider it extremely unlikely based on the experiences ive had so far.

To be clear, I am NOT saying all Atheists are that closed minded/condescending... just that all I have personally met are...
 
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I don't want to marry anyone, but it wouldn't be a problem for me to be in a relationship with an atheist. As a matter of fact I am in a relationship with an atheist - and I think I am one myself.
 

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No way - I'm exhausted after an evening with my atheist acquaintances ;)
They used to be my best friends, and now we've moved in dramatically different directions. I know I can't convince them, but I can't stop myself from attempting, because it's so important as to how I see the world. It's like I see the world in colour, and they see the world in black and white. All in all, I see deeper meanings in the things that happen, while they see coincidences. We used to play that we were witches/psychics, only I wasn't playing ;)
I see my partner as my soulmate, that we met for a reason, and that we have tasks to complete spiritual wise in this lifetime.
Of course, one of my tasks could be to fall in love with an atheist, and open his/her eyes to the "real" world (and I think that's why I can't stop hoping that my friends will somehow wake up, and I keep getting hurt because they choose to stay so limited.)
 

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Since most NFs have a tendency to believe in ''something bigger'', i was wondering if you would necessarily expect the same from your special one.
Thoughts? :huh:

Edit: Please answer the poll, if you don't mind .

Respectful differences (if/when they apply) have a way of resolving themselves when love is involved.


(So, yes.)
 
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Rasofy

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and I keep getting hurt because they choose to stay so limited.)
They probably view you as the limited one. :devil:
Thanks for the honest answer, by the way. :hug:
 

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They probably view you as the limited one. :devil:
Thanks for the honest answer, by the way. :hug:
Thanks :) I always try to be as honest as I can :hug:

Well, I think they tend to see me as naive, and unaware of the "real" problems in the world. They also think I'm too privileged. It's a working class/upper middle class issue between us from their POV; they're socialists/communists, while I'm liberal and relatively well off. I think that they are contributing to keeping up the class system they're actually against, because it defines their view of the world so much - while I never refer to people as being part of a class. I pretty much try to connect with everybody on a soul level, while they focus on peoples class, level of education, career, political views and income. Marriage would be impossible, despite mutual love between us.
 

Eruca

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Ive never met a complete true Atheist that did not try to force their beliefs on me, and act or sometimes straight up SAY that I was naive (at best) for having any spiritual beliefs, Ive met a few who self identify as atheists, but are technically Agnostic atheists (they believe in atheism, but believe its possible they could be wrong, and often that other people aren't necessarily stupid/naive for believing in something spiritual/religious.) and one of them is one of my closest friends... the other agnostic atheists ive met are really great to... I voted No however as an Agnostic atheist, is well, not an atheist, I could see myself marrying an Agnostic or Agnostic atheist... but I do not believe i will ever meet an Atheist that respects my beliefs... not to say its impossible, I just consider it extremely unlikely based on the experiences ive had so far.

To be clear, I am NOT saying all Atheists are that closed minded/condescending... just that all I have personally met are...

To confuse matters further, many agnostic atheists would simply describe themselves as atheists. When I read the thread's title I interpreted "atheist" as meaning solid atheist or agnostic atheist, because I think the wider population mixes the two meanings at will.

Also, it is not surprising the certain atheists you have met have been stubborn and provocative. To be 100% certain, rather than 99% (as an agnostic atheist might be), a certain amount of over-confidence is required. Therefore being arrogant is virtually part of the definition of a certain atheist, just the same for a certain religious person.
 

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I could not marry an atheist simply because faith has such a critical impact on lifestyle. atheist also tend to tremendously downplay the significance of religion in regards to child rearing and moral development.
 

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I know it's too early to jump to conclusions, BUT INFJs; I see that so far all of you don't mind marrying atheists...
Could that also be the reason for this?
 

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I'm not the marrying kind, but religion or the lack there of doesn't really come into play as long as he's ok with me doing my own thing. I'm not really religious myself, though I do consider myself spiritually 'involved'. Also, I'm from Europe, so there may be a cultural component in this.
 

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I meant atheists in a generic way, indeed.
Seemed better than ''Agnostic'', which would include people that in reality are totally indecisive. :BangHead:
 

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I meant atheists in a generic way, indeed.
Seemed better than ''Agnostic'', which would include people that in reality are totally indecisive. :BangHead:


OK, that's clarifying... I wouldn't mind agnostic, but still open people - that's a different story :)
 

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Basically, my answer is similar to many others here. "It depends"

Since I'm like 40, and never married...I consider the question of marriage doubtful in general.

I would guess I'd "officially" classify myself as "Highly Spiritual Agnostic." (I wrote Asimov one time discussing being a "mystical scientist", and I didn't hear back.) I'm venturing out, and trying to connect with people, including people who are the right age and type for becoming S.O. or some sort of partner...as well as find friends.

The difficulty is I want open-minded people, and usually a group forms because they are strongly "For" or "Against" something. I joined two free thought associations, and I haven't went to any of their events, and I may still do so. However, one of the groups seems "militant". They seem to want to get "In God we trust" removed from public buildings. Also, one guy there dissected a South Park episode minute by minute discussing how South Park put Atheists in a bad light.

Come on! It's South Park. Also, I don't want to remove slogans from buildings!

I even went to Unitarian Universalist, and they seemed a little bit too militant to me...too intolerant...too argumentative. I'm hoping that the one service I attended what not representative. At least they weren't adamant in the God or no-God area, however.
 

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To confuse matters further, many agnostic atheists would simply describe themselves as atheists. When I read the thread's title I interpreted "atheist" as meaning solid atheist or agnostic atheist, because I think the wider population mixes the two meanings at will.

Also, it is not surprising the certain atheists you have met have been stubborn and provocative. To be 100% certain, rather than 99% (as an agnostic atheist might be), a certain amount of over-confidence is required. Therefore being arrogant is virtually part of the definition of a certain atheist, just the same for a certain religious person.

yup... I often notice the type to when they ask questions, the Agnostic Atheist asks questions about my beliefs often obviously based in curiosity, and often not specific, usually more vague like "so, what do you believe?" Often just wanting to learn more about me and what defines me, where as a 100% atheist would be more likely to ask specific, and often leading questions of me like "So, do you believe an all powerful being created the universe in 7 days?" often with the intent of hoping I will say yes, so they can then "Enlighten" me to their "truth" so as to do me the generous service of curing my idiocy...
 

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Atheists are fucking boring, if you pardon my language.
I prefer agnostics or pagans.
 

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I could not marry an atheist simply because faith has such a critical impact on lifestyle. atheist also tend to tremendously downplay the significance of religion in regards to child rearing and moral development.

this is not to say that I go around trying to force-convert atheists or believe that they are amoral or evil, but I do believe that religion is tremendously beneficial to child development and having parents of 2 different religions would be terribly confusing to the child
 

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Atheists are fucking boring, if you pardon my language.
I prefer agnostics or pagans.

ooo, a relationship with a pagan would be fun :banana: but I don't think I could viably marry one. in all honesty though, the Pagan religion sounds way more interesting and fun than Christianity. I would love to believe that there are magical animal spirits and such running around and that all those Fi vibes I get from everything were actually forms of tangible energy, but alas, I just can't see the viability.
 
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