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[ENFP] ENFPs (or NFs) and Enneagrams

Aleksei

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ENFP 8s are nowhere near as rare as you'd think.
 

Chloe

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INFP 8s are much more common than ENFP 8s. Yes, it's true. TY.

And ESFP 8s.
 

Moiety

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ENFP 8s are nowhere near as rare as you'd think.

I think 8ness is the natural antibody personal reaction to how some societies perceive EFP males. Probably FP males in general.
 

Chloe

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I think 8ness is the natural antibody personal reaction to how some societies perceive EFP males. Probably FP males in general.

but thats a good thing... to have both things... FP and 8ness.... you can play for both teams :)
 

Aleksei

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I think an assertive/turbulent attitude in general is. I myself care too much about praise and attention to be an 8 proper, but I'm more pissy than 3s usually are.
 

Moiety

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but thats a good thing... to have both things... FP and 8ness.... you can play for both teams :)

If I was in a particularly self-loathing day I might say I'm an 8 without the perks and an ENFP without the perks. But I don't feel particularly self-loathing today :p

I think an assertive/turbulent attitude in general is. I myself care too much about praise and attention to be an 8 proper, but I'm more pissy than 3s usually are.

What's your enneagram type?
 

Chloe

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If I was in a particularly self-loathing day I might say I'm an 8 without the perks and an ENFP without the perks. But I don't feel particularly self-loathing today :p

I am glad you are in a not-self-loathing day today, moiety
 

Chloe

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we cry when we dont. a lot. ya know


i usually make super plans to fix my failures with one big success that will come soon
 

Aleksei

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Do you guys like, achieve stuff n shit?
Of course not; we're Ps. That's why I show off in forums and pretend to achieve stuff by winning arguments.

My life sucks. :(
 

Chloe

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Of course not; we're Ps. That's why I show off in forums and pretend to achieve stuff by winning arguments.

My life sucks. :(


:laugh:
how could you??!?


anyway, i am sorry mate you are obviously less successful than I am... but my Pness is not getting in my way to success !



for realz: i used to be super overachiever but then i lost my goals and all became pointless.


i am a 3 in recovery :laugh:


first step is to admit you sometimes fail
 

Chloe

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Well.. I am just thinking how its important, at least i can speak for myself but i think its valuable experience for everyone, to be in life on both ends; on top and at the bottom.. try both extremes. I think in my microuniverse, in my way, i did: i was super successful compaing to 99+% people around me and I was super unsuccessful (comparing to most good college students but I am only in that circles bc i went to top HS so i am like v unsuccesstul among my ex HS peers) and as much as i hate that i fucked up my college so far, itw very good to experience both. Not just in academic career: in other things as well. It makes you more real and you read people better, why they like you etc.


this is quite related to enneagram 3
 

Moiety

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I don't envy you 3s. Success is a drive I can't really understand all too well.
 

Chloe

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I don't envy you 3s. Success is a drive I can't really understand all too well.

:/
welcome to corporate america.


yeah im also not very happy to have my happiness depend on success; which i m working on to get rid of that attitude


hahaha just noticed i said "working on":(
 

Moiety

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My ENTJ enneagram 3 friend gets on my nerves sometimes with that kind of stuff. He once told me "i thought you were a winner" and I was like...this friend of mine is surely an alien. I tried explaining to him how one can be happy without having status and I could see how although he logically agreed (cause no one can beat my rhetoric powers y'all *is an 8* :D ), he still had to agree to disagree.

But he's better now since we met some hippie folk last summer.
 

Queen Kat

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From what I've seen, nearly very ENFP is a 4 or has a 4 wing. I myself am 7w8 sx/so, I've been a 7 all my life! :D But just ignore me, I'm a very strange ENFP. Last week I had to work together in a group of four where I believe only one person wasn't ENFP. They were saying the same things over and over and over again and I always had to beg them to get to the fucking point. They just didn't! And when we had to decide something, they didn't decide anything, so I had to make them. I think I'm turning something different than ENFP.
 

skylights

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i'm officially changing my type to 7 until further notice, wing undecided but probably 6

i can be a 7 with a competitive streak right?

btw i thought this table was interesting:

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