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    You people do realize that infjs are like 1% of the population right?
    So half of the people there who've been close friends with like 5 infjs are getting at least half of those mistyped or are seriously telling us they know - on average - around 500 people well enough to type them.

    except if they happen to meet these infjs on a typology site I mean.
    That's akin to people having strong opinions about 'several people' they know IRL with iqs over 140. Which is 1/260 people. So except if they happened to be in a 'bright kids' class growing up it's kind of unlikely.

    So more often than not it's just going to be people being plain wrong or 1 negative experience being pluralized to give it legitimacy. Lots of people will, for example, confuse isfjs for infjs despite the two being quite different creatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    You people do realize that infjs are like 1% of the population right?
    So half of the people there who've been close friends with like 5 infjs are getting at least half of those mistyped or are seriously telling us they know - on average - around 500 people well enough to type them.

    except if they happen to meet these infjs on a typology site I mean.
    That's akin to people having strong opinions about 'several people' they know IRL with iqs over 140. Which is 1/260 people. So except if they happened to be in a 'bright kids' class growing up it's kind of unlikely.

    So more often than not it's just going to be people being plain wrong or 1 negative experience being pluralized to give it legitimacy. Lots of people will, for example, confuse isfjs for infjs despite the two being quite different creatures.

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    Does hating yourself count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepink-cloakedninja View Post
    Does hating yourself count?
    If you're correctly typed, then yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    You people do realize that infjs are like 1% of the population right?
    So half of the people there who've been close friends with like 5 infjs are getting at least half of those mistyped or are seriously telling us they know - on average - around 500 people well enough to type them.

    except if they happen to meet these infjs on a typology site I mean.
    That's akin to people having strong opinions about 'several people' they know IRL with iqs over 140. Which is 1/260 people. So except if they happened to be in a 'bright kids' class growing up it's kind of unlikely.

    So more often than not it's just going to be people being plain wrong or 1 negative experience being pluralized to give it legitimacy. Lots of people will, for example, confuse isfjs for infjs despite the two being quite different creatures.

    Well, one explanation for knowing lots of INFJs is if one gravitates to social circles that attracts lots of INFJs, such as writing groups/conferences. Someone put together a poll for an international writing group I'm a member of and INFJs (according to the poll) make up 19.1% of the writing group, followed by INFPs at 14.61% Though this is only of members who took the poll, which probably did not include all members, and there are other things that could mess up the accuracy of the poll such as the hypothetical possibility that INFJs are more likely to participate in personality polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepink-cloakedninja View Post
    Well, one explanation for knowing lots of INFJs is if one gravitates to social circles that attracts lots of INFJs, such as writing groups/conferences. Someone put together a poll for an international writing group I'm a member of and INFJs (according to the poll) make up 19.1% of the writing group, followed by INFPs at 14.61% Though this is only of members who took the poll, which probably did not include all members, and there are other things that could mess up the accuracy of the poll such as the hypothetical possibility that INFJs are more likely to participate in personality polls.
    MBTI is a very poor psychometric test. It's useful when accurate, but terrible in getting accuracy. Those INFJ's and INFP's could be other types within that sample already.

    Idk why people here assume that people get it right the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    You people do realize that infjs are like 1% of the population right?
    So half of the people there who've been close friends with like 5 infjs are getting at least half of those mistyped or are seriously telling us they know - on average - around 500 people well enough to type them.

    except if they happen to meet these infjs on a typology site I mean.
    That's akin to people having strong opinions about 'several people' they know IRL with iqs over 140. Which is 1/260 people. So except if they happened to be in a 'bright kids' class growing up it's kind of unlikely.

    So more often than not it's just going to be people being plain wrong or 1 negative experience being pluralized to give it legitimacy. Lots of people will, for example, confuse isfjs for infjs despite the two being quite different creatures.

    Except people of the same type or similar types tend to be in the same social groups. I have met 4 definite INFJs (3 of them were really into MBTI for some reason) and I don't know a lot of people. A few years ago, I was surrounded by tons of people who were most likely ESFJs, ESFPs, or ESTPs, but I never really got to know any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    MBTI is a very poor psychometric test. It's useful when accurate, but terrible in getting accuracy. Those INFJ's and INFP's could be other types within that sample already.

    Idk why people here assume that people get it right the first time.
    That is true that typing oneself can be difficult, but if most of them got their type wrong, why did the majority of them flock towards INFJ and INFP when each individual had 15 possible types that weren't their own that they could have gotten? It's a group that attracts INFJs and INFPs because many INFJs and INFPs are novelists, so it makes sense that there's a large amount of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaBlack View Post
    Except people of the same type or similar types tend to be in the same social groups. I have met 4 definite INFJs (3 of them were really into MBTI for some reason) and I don't know a lot of people. A few years ago, I was surrounded by tons of people who were most likely ESFJs, ESFPs, or ESTPs, but I never really got to know any of them.
    Ni doms are independent types though (yeah the F one wants to make people agree with them) but they really distinguish themselves from a group. I don't think it's likely they all chill as one flock. I always use the analogy of Ni doms being beta fish. I had some really rough experiences with other Ni doms (I see one out of years maybe I'm unlucky but yeah)

    Quote Originally Posted by thepink-cloakedninja View Post
    That is true that typing oneself can be difficult, but if most of them got their type wrong, why did the majority of them flock towards INFJ and INFP when each individual had 15 possible types that weren't their own that they could have gotten? It's a group that attracts INFJs and INFPs because many INFJs and INFPs are novelists, so it makes sense that there's a large amount of them.
    That doesn't make sense just because one or two types is the most common result does not make it authentic.
    What about the other 14 types? That should raise awareness rather than lessen it.

    Do you think NJ and NP types make pop psychology tests exclusively? So you think NJ and NP types are the only type to become novelists? I'm saying those people are mistyped maybe not all of them but a lot of them.

    The word choice. Are you introverted or extroverted (introverted is kind of a trend right now) introvert check.
    Are you imaginative or realistic? Um of course I'm special Intuitive check. (Everyone believes they're smarter than everyone else)
    Are you compassionate? um feeling because I'm not some hard cold ass icy bitch. Feeling check.
    Are you disorganized? No I'm not some messy slob. I got my shit together. Judging check.

    Tl;dr MBTI has poor word choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Ni doms are independent types though (yeah the F one wants to make people agree with them) but they really distinguish themselves from a group. I don't think it's likely they all chill as one flock. I always use the analogy of Ni doms being beta fish. I had some really rough experiences with other Ni doms (I see one out of years maybe I'm unlucky but yeah)



    That doesn't make sense just because one or two types is the most common result does not make it authentic.
    What about the other 14 types? That should raise awareness rather than lessen it.

    Do you think NJ and NP types make pop psychology tests exclusively? So you think NJ and NP types are the only type to become novelists? I'm saying those people are mistyped maybe not all of them but a lot of them.

    The word choice. Are you introverted or extroverted (introverted is kind of a trend right now) introvert check.
    Are you imaginative or realistic? Um of course I'm special Intuitive check. (Everyone believes they're smarter than everyone else)
    Are you compassionate? um feeling because I'm not some hard cold ass icy bitch. Feeling check.
    Are you disorganized? No I'm not some messy slob. I got my shit together. Judging check.

    Tl;dr MBTI has poor word choice.
    I'm sorry but I don't understand your first two statements. Could you rephrase?

    Oh no, of course I don't think that NJ and NP types are the only type to become novelists! I said that "many INFJs and INFPs are novelists" not that only INFJs and INFPs are novelists. My two best friends, an ESTJ and ISTJ are both creative writers.

    The group took the personality test on 16personalities.com which has no questions phrased like that. The few questions that I could see being a problem are:

    "You often get so lost in thought you ignore or forget your surroundings." A writer would often pick this one because a common hallmark of writers is spacing out and imagining new scenes for the current work in progress.

    "You consider yourself more practical than creative." My guess would be that most writers would pick creative because a major part of their identity is creative writing so they would be like "of course I'm super creative!!!!"

    "An interesting book or video game is often better than a social event." Many many many of the members of this particular writing community are book worms, some having read LOtR about 20 times so yeah, a lot of them probably strongly agreed with this question.

    "You rarely get carried away by fantasies and ideas." Most of the members probably disagreed with this one because their favorite hobby is essentially getting carried away by their fantasies and ideas.

    "You often get lost in thought while you are walking in nature." Again, writers spacing out and imagining book scenes.

    And "You enjoy going to social events that involve dress-up or role-play activities." They all probably strongly agreed with this one because once a year this group has an annual meet up/writers conference, and every day has about 5+ cosplay themes that almost everyone participates in.

    So from those questions you would have the preference for intuitives, and one question geared towards introverts.

    This is a stereotype, but I would say that the majority of writers are introverts, though I cannot state this without 100% certainty as I've never read any studies on the introvert/extrovert preferences of writers.

    As for the feeler preference, good writing has a HUGE emotional component. The goal of a novel is to make the reader emotionally attach to the main character ASAP (though there are exceptions in more experimental novels), so that the reader will keep reading whenever you stick the character in a pickle because he or she wants to find out whether or not the main character will be OK. Good writing also requires the writer to constantly be describing how the main character is feeling, and what the main character is thinking CONSTANTLY. The reader wants to be immersed in the main character's mind, and feel the character's emotions, and so the writer has to always be trying to experience what they imagine the main character is experiencing, so that way the book will be as realistic as possible, and teleport the reader into the character's world.

    I've read only one book on the subject of more emotional people becoming readers and writers and have only heard a handful of talks about it, so again, I cannot state that more emotional people are writers with 100% certainty, but I can say with 100% certainty that the majority of writers (writers as in the collective amount of amateur and professional novelists, not just professional novelists because many readers will only read books written by males so male writers often have an easier time being successful as professional novelists) are female due to the emotional component of writing.

    So here you have the reason for the large INFX that make up this particular writing group. I cannot say why there are more INFJs than INFPs, though.

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