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    Default Seeing a guide dog = instant tears for me

    I'm trying to share more IRL, and I'll get started by sharing online, so please allow me this small indulgence. I just moved to the city from the South, and I need to break out of my comfy little shell in some small way. It's a little bit of therapy I guess. So, here goes:

    Whenever I see a guide dog (seeing-eye dog) doing its job, I cry a little... instantly and invariably. And my heart hurts in the BEST way. Not sobs or anything, but my eyes do fill with tears.

    It doesn't matter what mood I'm in, what I'm doing, or where I'm going -- I have to stop and watch, and smile. And I think the world isn't so bad after all, because here is a perfect creature, right in front of me.

    The impulse to hug that dog and protect it forever from any and all pain, and somehow tell it that I think it is perfect, and that I love it, is completely overwhelming. But I'm happy to just stand there and cry and smile.

    Animals are without sin, and animals that help us like that are angels, right here on Earth. I think it's the closest to believing in God that I will ever get.

    Confession: I saw one yesterday and one this morning, and just thinking about them, and typing this, is making me cry. Sheesh!

    And yes, I cry easily and often, but never for sadness or anger... always for beauty or empathy. And those service animals are pure and perfect beauty, at least to me.

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    That's really cute, but I think it was HUMANS who decided that a random Fido Blow was going to be "compassionate and serving." They're tools, just like a walker or a motorized wheelchair is.

    No need to ruin your mascara over it.
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    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whenever I see a guide-dog, I think "OMG! I FUCKING WANT ONE OF THOSE!" They are the coolest shit ever. Like, they are even allowed INSIDE! Gah, if I ever lose my vision cuz of shrapnel fighin' in 'nam or something, I am totally getting one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstract Thinker View Post
    Animals are without sin, and animals that help us like that are angels, right here on Earth. I think it's the closest to believing in God that I will ever get.

    And yes, I cry easily and often, but never for sadness or anger... always for beauty. And those service animals are pure and perfect beauty, at least to me.
    Sure they are the pure expression of beauty - especially when they decide to pee on your bed.

    Service animals are just dogs like any other dogs and they are in no way perfect creatures.

    Idealizing them like this is a bit naive I think. Surely you must not have owned a dog before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    That's really cute, but I think it was HUMANS who decided that a random Fido Blow was going to be "compassionate and serving." They're tools, just like a walker or a motorized wheelchair is.

    No need to ruin your mascara over it.
    You know, I was thinking about that too yesterday after I saw one of them... that the people who trained that dog are the real heroes. But I guess it's just the idea that something can serve without ego, expectations, or agenda that gets to me.

    I know I'm projecting some kind of internal thing I've got going on to the dog -- it's just doing what it was trained to do after all, but I can't help it. It's not a choice to feel so strongly when I see them -- it just is. It's been like that for years. Sometimes I try to look away, but it never works.

    My ex-wife and I owned six cats and a Malamute at one time, so I'm definitely an animal person, but this is quite different. I loved our pets of course, but the service animals just get to me. Can't explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by une_autre View Post
    Idealizing them like this is a bit naive I think.
    I get what you're saying, but to me it doesn't seem naive. It just grabs me for some reason. I guess I project onto them my personal desire to help and to serve, but without ANY agenda. It's impossible for me to do that though, to not have an agenda. If I'm honest with myself (and I try to be), there's always an agenda, even if it's just to make myself feel good.

    I've never been in therapy, but I wonder what a therapist would assign to this (admittedly) odd and overly-powerful response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinistralPal View Post
    Like, they are even allowed INSIDE!
    The one I saw yesterday was helping his blind owner get on the Metro, and the dog waited in line, and even moved over to let some other folks get on the train first, then he led his human on board... safely.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    They're tools, just like a walker or a motorized wheelchair is.
    Let's see a walker or a motorized wheelchair do that for a blind person.

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    ^ Honestly I don't think there's anything wrong with your reaction. Yes, it's on the more extreme/intense end of things, but I understand your reason for having it.

    I, too, have a strong affinity for all living things, and what makes most (all?) other animals different from us is the lack of ability to consciously/willfully harm. A lack of purposeful intent behind their behaviors. I think there's beauty in that, when contrasted with us.
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    I think that this might really be interesting for you to read:

    Companion Animals as Self-Objects

    This study was conducted by Sue-Ellen Brown and was published in 2007. It aimed to see if aspects of self psychology could be applied to human-animal relationships. Self psychology was founded by Heinz Kohut in the mid 20th century, and focuses on empathy as a core need for healthy human development and self understanding. Suppliers of this empathy, which produces feelings of calmness, acceptance, and self-esteem in the receiver, are called selfobjects. These can range from people to places to ideas. This paper examined whether animals could be selfobjects for people, and if so, to identify if the selfobject was fulfilling mirroring, idealizing, or twinship needs. In addition, this study utilized a new method of qualitative study in the field of self psychology. A one-hour semi-structured interview was consisting of questions designed to reveal selfobject needs and fulfillment was implemented. Results from this test were compiled to analyze if selfobject needs were being met. It was found that animals were able to be selfobjects for people and to fulfill mirroring, idealizing, and twinship needs.
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    LOL! It really is a combination of the dog and the trainers. All the training in the world would do no good if the dog chosen for the job didn't have a high intelligence level and a good temperament.

    Dogs really are incredible animals though. I tend to get shelter dogs and like working/hunting breeds. There seems to be no end to what they can learn (with the right breeds). My heeler has some issues from being abused and neglected before he wound up in the shelter, but its amazing how quickly he learns and adapts. Lil' furbastard is too smart for my own good.

    Wouldn't trade the neurotic lil mutt for the world though.

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