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[Ne] Sarcasm

Little Linguist

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Sometimes I find it hard to pick up on sarcasm, especially online. Has anyone conquered this problem? I could use some advice, thanks. :blush:
 

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I have this problem sometimes too. UGH. My ENFJ roommie is ALWAYS making jokes and I have such a hard time picking up on them...

Also, sometimes when I ask people "are you serious?" they say "yes" and then I just believe them... I don't know why. Well, I guess why shouldn't I believe them. Then a lot of the time it turns out they are NOT serious.
 

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Well, only certain kinds of jokes. I respond to them sincerely, as if they are a legitimate commentary on something, like "well I don't agree with that..."
 

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Im the opposite...

I'm too sarcastic and it gets me in trouble.
 

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I am the most gullible human ever. I believe pretty much whatever people say so I have to detect sarcasm based upon context and the person I am talking to.

In person my sens of human can be pretty crude and rough through, but I miss many of the entp jokes altogether. I can tell they just made a joke but I dont get it at all. Later I will realize they were likely making fun of me. Same thing with the very few ENFJs I know but I dont think they are making fun of me.
 

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Dude, I totally missed the other sarcasm thread!!! :D How crazy is that?

OBSERVATION FAIL ONCE AGAIN. (DOH!!!! :doh:)

Anyway, I can have a pretty biting sense of sarcasm, but my sarcasm is so full of energy and emphasis and it's pretty overdone so that even the least observant of people would probably understand that I was being sarcastic.

But detecting sarcasm??? Ack!

I wonder how we can improve it???
 

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:yes: They usually try to make it obvious. I kinda go along with their flow, and play along, and laugh at their 'WTF' faces when they thought I didn't catch their sarcasm...

Look for a smile/their eyes usually tell a lot of things.
 

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Ming, that may very well be the problem. I FAIL at observation. Really. Totally. I don't pick up on environmental cues very well; thankfully I'm better at it now (sort of???) but when I was younger, say between the ages of 6-25, I was TERRIBLE at it. I didn't know how to pick up on social cues at all.
 

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Ming, that may very well be the problem. I FAIL at observation. Really. Totally. I don't pick up on environmental cues very well; thankfully I'm better at it now (sort of???) but when I was younger, say between the ages of 6-25, I was TERRIBLE at it. I didn't know how to pick up on social cues at all.
Hmm...

What about hearing? When someone attempts sarcasm, they change their tone quite a dramatic amount. :huh:
 

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Well I have a tendency to miss all types of humor to be honest. But if I can notice one type of it that is sarcasm. What is probably because I am fairly skilled at it.
 

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Hmm...

What about hearing? When someone attempts sarcasm, they change their tone quite a dramatic amount. :huh:

Yes, that is the way I have pinpointed it most, and context. If people are skilled at it enough, it will still be totally lost on me, though. And some people ruthlessly take advantage of it, bastards.
 

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Yes, that is the way I have pinpointed it most, and context. If people are skilled at it enough, it will still be totally lost on me, though. And some people ruthlessly take advantage of it, bastards.

I don't believe it. :mellow:
 

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I tend to be the sarcastic one. Absolutely love good sarcastic humor when it's used at the right time.
 

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"Sarcasm; is the lowest form of wit."

But I still fall prey to it like a sarcastic 'person' for lack of vulgar language. :)

When I'm overly polite too.
 

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"Sarcasm; is the lowest form of wit."

But I still fall prey to it like a sarcastic 'person' for lack of vulgar language. :)

When I'm overly polite too.

I actually agree with something Ricky Gervais said about sarcasm. He basically mentioned that when applied properly sarcasm is up there with the best in terms of comedic applications, it doesn't just have to consist of an intonation of voice and inflection of pronunciation surrounding a few words. Whereas the 'Pun'.....is often an adulterated pile of waffle for bearded men who enjoy crosswords to chuckle to themselves over.

Then again I like crosswords and I often sport a beard.......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 

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Sometimes I find it hard to pick up on sarcasm, especially online. Has anyone conquered this problem? I could use some advice, thanks. :blush:

Ha! Ask them if they are an INTP. If they say "yes", and you think it is sarcasm, it probably is. Otherwise give them the benefit of the doubt. Semi-serious but with more than a grain of truth [ALAS]
 

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Hmm...

What about hearing? When someone attempts sarcasm, they change their tone quite a dramatic amount. :huh:

Which is why I'm much better at detecting sarcasm in the course of conversation than in writing.

Sometimes I'll read something and I won't be quite sure if they are being sarcastic or not, which rarely happens in conversation.

I prefer people to be more straightforward than sarcastic. Less likely that misunderstandings result.
 

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i'm probably too enthusiastic to dish out sarcasm, but occasionally i do have problems picking up on it. a personal rule i have though, if you have to ask yourself if its serious or a joke, its probably a joke.

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-1hxQfXgsM"]when i first saw this it took me a minute to pick up on it. dont feel bad :p[/YOUTUBE]
 
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