[INFJ] INFJ weaknesses are character defects(?)

[Wyst]

Wyst...Are you Ne testing with this^...

*Wyst makes an attempt to add trustworthy people to his close friends. (Count me in!, OK!)

We gotta talk.

Mmmmmaybe I'm Ne testing the waters to see where people stand before I reveal my stance on the subject at hand... :-/
And by the way... this is the second time I've seen you do emotes for other people. Very strange...

i totally understand what you're saying in the above paragraph. i think we feel the urge to jump in because we are picking up on the flow and reading the people, and sincerely enjoying the moment, and have immense thoughts and feelings flying all about our heads and bodies. but i do believe being a true infj keeps us from jumping in there.

Perhaps - but eventually 20-something INFJ, through the years and life experiences because a 50-something INFJ. That INFJ isn't still going to hold back if they don't really want to - they've learned when to go for things and when to hold back through life lessons. So here's a question for ya, does that (being a developed INFJ) UNmake them an INFJ?

what is the big deal anyway? if we don't jump in there, we are still part of the conversation. the listening part, which can be more fascinating. if we do jump in there, it usually falls flat, right? it just does. okay, maybe we'll get lucky and our moment will be amazing, but then it will pass and we won't be able to sustain it for the most part, and we'll skulk back into the crowd hopefully unnoticed......haha. you know what i mean?

Trust me. I know what you mean.
But eventually if you figure out when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, wouldn't you want to take advantage of that knowledge?

i think you are an awesome infj trying to make yourself into an enfj, estp, estj, ? or something like that.

No way! I'm just trying to develop myself as an INFJ.

are you finding it hard to be patient and to be a true infj because you feel like you can't meet women that way? that the women flock to the 'life of the party,' or more extroverted men, and that your normal activities aren't condusive to meeting interesting women?

Nnnnooo, that's not really it...
I'm even talking about participating in conversations about theology, politics...whatever and those things have nothing to do with women and romance. Man, I used to just BRISTLE whenever my parents started talking about matters of faith, politics and other controversial stuff. Not anymore though - and it's really helped me deepen my friendship with them because I'm not so touchy.

but forcing yourself to act in a way that goes against your intuition --our specialty function--is just driving you further from who you really are.

EXCELLENT advice.

Ooooonnne smmmaaaaalll concession though... who we are now is not who we're destined to be. I'm always changing. Thank God for that.. otherwise I'd still be the irritating 15-year old that knew no limits...


*looks around for ENTPs to irritate*

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

Perhaps - but eventually 20-something INFJ, through the years and life experiences because a 50-something INFJ. That INFJ isn't still going to hold back if they don't really want to - they've learned when to go for things and when to hold back through life lessons. So here's a question for ya, does that (being a developed INFJ) UNmake them an INFJ?

hmmm. i don't consciously think to myself, usually, "should i hold back or go for it?" i just ride my intuition on such things. i have made a fool of myself plenty of times though, and said inappropriate things at inappropriate times. to me it's just all part of being infj--or who i am. hopefully i get better with time.

Trust me. I know what you mean.
But eventually if you figure out when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, wouldn't you want to take advantage of that knowledge?

i think i'm pretty good the way i am.

Nnnnooo, that's not really it...
I'm even talking about participating in conversations about theology, politics...whatever and those things have nothing to do with women and romance. Man, I used to just BRISTLE whenever my parents started talking about matters of faith, politics and other controversial stuff. Not anymore though - and it's really helped me deepen my friendship with them because I'm not so touchy.

well, i used to see things more as black and white. i struggled with my purist ideals regarding things like parenting, spanking, mothering, schooling, etc., principles i hold with utmost conviction in my heart. but i've seen as i go through life there really ARE lots o' ways o' being and thank gosh for that. makes life more interesting. and, henceforth, i am just not so touchy anymore because i really do value many different opinions and viewpoints, and believe anything can be negotiated. the main thing that gets my gruff anymore is when others misconstrue what i say and stamp a label on me accordingly, i guess because i'm flexible and always open for change---.

Ooooonnne smmmaaaaalll concession though... who we are now is not who we're destined to be. I'm always changing. Thank God for that.. otherwise I'd still be the irritating 15-year old that knew no limits...

i guess i'm just different than other infj i've seen on here. it seems like i haven't always tried so hard to be a wonderful "infj", i just knew i was an idealist about some things, and a purist about others. perhaps it has been a good thing overall that i only just recently discovered mbti.......i couldn't obsess about all my little idiosyncracies too much cuz i thought people were all basically having the same struggles.

*looks around for ENTPs to irritate*

that is soooo fun, isn't it?

 

[iwakar]

Hmm, yes, and that is unnerving. Sooner or later there will be a backlash too.

Hopefully it won't go so far as to cause a backlash. You guys don't deserve that, even if INFJs are being a bit idolized at the moment.

INFJs are savvy enough to know that good publicity can easily morph into bad publicity, so we prefer to shun the hoopla altogether.

Oh limelight, thou art a fickle mistress.

 

[Udog]

INFJs are savvy enough to know that good publicity can easily morph into bad publicity, so we prefer to shun the hoopla altogether.

Oh limelight, thou art a fickle mistress.

You realize that just makes them want to try harder, right?

 

[iwakar]

You realize that just makes them want to try harder, right?

Where's my frustrated banana emoticon when I need it?

 

[Wyst]

Where's my frustrated banana emoticon when I need it?

Here, use this one. It's one of my favorites...

 

[nightning]

You realize that just makes them want to try harder, right?

Merely reverse psychology at its finest...

INFJs secretly crave the attention... they just don't want the negativity associated with it. Therefore in this case, they get to bask in the limelight... but if anything goes wrong. It's not "their fault". Blame it all on those ENTPs.

 

[Wyst]

Blame it all on those ENTPs.

That's the answer for almost EVERY problem.

 

[iwakar]

Merely reverse psychology at its finest...

INFJs secretly crave the attention... they just don't want the negativity associated with it. Therefore in this case, they get to bask in the limelight... but if anything goes wrong. It's not "their fault". Blame it all on those ENTPs.

Nein fraulein.

I not-so-secretly crave connection, appreciation, and validation.

On the contrary, I have no desire to be a one-woman musical-circus complete with monkeys and trombones. I leave that to the ENFJs.

 

[jenocyde]

That's the answer for almost EVERY problem.

tsk tsk.
this is a major character defect on your part. we are the cause of almost every problem.

 

[iwakar]

tsk tsk.
this is a major character defect on your part. we are the cause of almost every problem.

+1 Wyst
+2 Jen

I'm gonna have to start a tally board soon.

 

[Wyst]

tsk tsk.
this is a major character defect on your part. we are the cause of almost every problem.

And that's why the ANSWER is to blame you for it.

 

[Wyst]

+1 Wyst
+2 Jen

I'm gonna have to start a tally board soon.

wtf! whose side are you on??

 

[jenocyde]

wtf! whose side are you on??

crybaby.

 

[Wyst]

If that was meant as an insult, you've failed miserably. Everyone knows that INFJ tears are beautiful as diamonds, turn into skittles when they hit the ground, and can be used to heal people.

 

[jenocyde]

they can't do much healing from inside my belly.

 

[Wyst]

they can't do much healing from inside my belly.

Well maybe you should stop eating INFJs. The tears aren't supposed to be ingested. They are a topical salve.

 

[jenocyde]

but the skittles, the skittles!!!

(ok fine, we can switch then... )

 

[Oddly Refined]

If that was meant as an insult, you've failed miserably. Everyone knows that INFJ tears are beautiful as diamonds, turn into skittles when they hit the ground, and can be used to heal people.

Oh my.
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Non-sarcastic information here!

I think I saw a comment on infjs blaming other people. I find this funny as someone that takes responsibility for their mistakes and works to deal with my issues. I had major problems with a friend a recently. There were things that I had *NO* idea that I was doing at all. He was kind enough to explain it to me. I asked him to let me process the information and we would talk later. I watched the way I expressed myself and found the information to be true. It was shortly after that I decided to go back to counseling to deal with these issues.

 

[marmandahalf]

If that was meant as an insult, you've failed miserably. Everyone knows that INFJ tears are beautiful as diamonds, turn into skittles when they hit the ground, and can be used to heal people.

Be honest: did you rip this idea, at least partially, from Albie the Racist Dragon?