[Fi] Fi: You only get it if you got it

[disregard]

*waves an olive branch over Aimahn's head*



I think this thread is pretty much done.

I covered it in the first page: Fi is an internal moral compass.

 

[ajblaise]

Now it's just a matter of who is mature enough to not have to get the last word in.

 

[Thursday]

INFJ or INFP? a closer look

go here and peruse the scroll bar on the top left for Contrasting Fi and Fe
i'd like to thank didums and neglect and ThisGirl
good night:hi:

 

[niffer]

You do realize that a majority of the posters in this thread were Ti users and actually filled a decent amount of posts in this thread therefore contributing to trying to bring a linear logical explanation of what it is whether or not you appreciated it is irrelevant, because you specifically asked for it. If you read fine lines post he explicitly stated that they had an equal chance of being wrong and in trying to explain Fi you would have to view it in the light of other functions. If you look at most of the insightful posts they did use logically reasonable explanations to describe it. That was something I felt you failed to do, go ahead and quote for me your insightful posts on Fi.

That's true CC. What some of the people here are trying to do is explain Fi, since you proposed "You only get it if you got it". It seems as if they're trying to prove you wrong. On the other hand, it's not like a non-dom Fi person has ever experienced Fi and the effects of having it. But this does not mean that they may not have a thorough understanding of it.

 

[Simplexity]

See my edit. And the japanese example is assuming that what she has said is completely incomprehensible, which I don't think is the case here.

My point was not if it was completely incomprehensible, but more so keying in on the fact that there was a difficulty in translation. Would you not agree that the more objective the terms the less difficulty in translation. Disregard correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you good with English, can you not tell the distinctions between words, is that not handy in being a good writer.

Can that not lead to communication problems if you don't make correct distinctions, can that not apply to arguing and reasoning?

 

[Didums]

Now it's just a matter of who is mature enough to not have to get the last word in.

DIBS!

 

[Jack Flak]

*waves an olive branch over Aimahn's head*



I think this thread is pretty much done.

I covered it in the first page: Fi is an internal moral compass.

No, heart said it better. You have no idea what you're talking about disregard, EVER.

Now it's just a matter of who is mature enough to not have to get the last word in.

I believe on...Page 75 or so, I declared that I have no love for the concept of maturity, so I'll take that bullet.

 

[Simplexity]

*waves an olive branch over Aimahn's head*



I think this thread is pretty much done.

I covered it in the first page: Fi is an internal moral compass.

Ok I can agree with that.

 

[Orangey]

I don't think Fi could or should be discussed any further.

Then don't.

Anyway, I will add another personal instance of what I think was the use of Fi. Similar to my store manager example, I have this professor this year that I just really cannot mesh with. From the moment that I was in the same room with him...before he said or did anything at all, I had a feeling that he was not to be trusted. And I judged him then, and at all times subsequent to that, according to this feeling. It is a completely unreasonable sentiment, but I can't control when and where it happens. And once it has, it seems absurd to go against it.

Is that Fi? This kind of thing happens once every so often, and I am always mystified by it because it seems to come from nowhere.

 

[disregard]

Then don't.

Anyway, I will add another personal instance of what I think was the use of Fi. Similar to my store manager example, I have this professor this year that I just really cannot mesh with. From the moment that I was in the same room with him...before he said or did anything at all, I had a feeling that he was not to be trusted. And I judged him then, and at all times subsequent to that, according to this feeling. It is a completely unreasonable sentiment, but I can't control when and where it happens. And once it has, it seems absurd to go against it.

Is that Fi? This kind of thing happens once every so often, and I am always mystified by it because it seems to come from nowhere.

That is woman's intuition.. and every woman has it, regardless of type.

(I hope?)

 

[Jack Flak]

Then don't.

Anyway, I will add another personal instance of what I think was the use of Fi. Similar to my store manager example, I have this professor this year that I just really cannot mesh with. From the moment that I was in the same room with him...before he said or did anything at all, I had a feeling that he was not to be trusted. And I judged him then, and at all times subsequent to that, according to this feeling. It is a completely unreasonable sentiment, but I can't control when and where it happens. And once it has, it seems absurd to go against it.

Is that Fi? This kind of thing happens once every so often, and I am always mystified by it because it seems to come from nowhere.

I would say if it's an MBTI function it's Ne which can be coupled with Ti or Fi.

 

[Orangey]

That is woman's intuition.. and every woman has it, regardless of type.

(I hope?)

Oh, I thought that was a wives' tale sort of thing...woman's intuition.

 

[disregard]

Haha... definitely not an old wive's tale.

It will save your life.

 

[Thursday]

That is woman's intuition.. and every woman has it, regardless of type.

(I hope?)

woman's intuition is Fi - see Jung's definition of Fi
Classics in the History of Psychology -- Jung (1921/1923) Chapter 10

 

[niffer]

That is woman's intuition.. and every woman has it, regardless of type.

(I hope?)

I have never experienced first-impression-like "hunches" about people before, so whether this is related to intuition or me being a woman or not....

 

[Didums]

My point was not if it was completely incomprehensible, but more so keying in on the fact that there was a difficulty in translation. Would you not agree that the more objective the terms the less difficulty in translation.

Being able to determine the cause of the difficulty in translation helps. Why is she being unclear? What can I do to explain that I am not understanding her message, and how can I explain to her a way in which she could clear up the misunderstandings, a way that I would understand what she is trying to convey? If you think she is being unclear because she is being over-emotional, then make the situation more calm and ask her to rephrase her statements, or something like that.

Also, someone could be making completely objective statements about string theory and you could still have difficulty in translating the meaning.



Edit: Over 500 posts! woot woot! Now I need to aim for 9,000...

 

[Simplexity]

I have never experienced first-impression-like "hunches" about people before, so whether this is related to intuition or me being a woman or not....

Hmm.. sometimes I get first impression like hunches when I'm playing sports. Like if someone is coming up behind me, or if I sense there is a goal scoring opportunity I get this strong feeling in my gut. I used to get a similar feeling when I was younger when I sensed I was about to be punished by my parents.

 

[disregard]

Woman's intuition alerts you to danger. It is not a random hunch. Women are designed to be able to protect themselves and their young, so they are more in tune with perceived threats.

You may not have a logical reason for why that professor didn't seem to be trustworthy, but your senses picked up on something that is indicative of danger.

 

[Orangey]

I have never experienced first-impression-like "hunches" about people before, so whether this is related to intuition or me being a woman or not....

Heh, never? And you're ENFP, so that would preclude both Ne and Fi...

 

[Orangey]

Woman's intuition alerts you to danger. It is not a random hunch. Women are designed to be able to protect themselves and their young, so they are more in tune with perceived threats.

You may not have a logical reason for why that professor didn't seem to be trustworthy, but your senses picked up on something that is indicative of danger.

You know, the only times I get these "hunches" are when I sense something negative...so you may be on to something.