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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    Because in real life, there are no such things as "safe spaces".

    Work life has no safe spaces at all, because you are FORCED to work with other people, no matter how disagreeable.
    Home life, unless you live entirely alone, has no safe spaces, because you are forced to live with other people.

    So the only way to have any true safe spaces is to be an unemployed hermit who lives off the land. Or a college student.
    There are certain things that I simply will not tolerate and being at work won't prevent me from not tolerating them. Just because someone is an employee doesn't mean that they have to put up with harassment. Sure, they have to be able to take a certain amount and be the bigger person while they're on the clock, but there's nothing wrong with calling over a manager to handle an extremely rude customer and walking away. It took me 22 years to stop taking the kind of advice she's giving in the video and I'm better off now for it tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawthorne View Post
    Her conclusion was "putting the needs of others before your own is a sign of maturity/personal growth/self-development" not "putting the needs of customers and clients before your own is necessary to be productive and/or successful in your professional life". If she had ended with the second, I wouldn't have taken issue. Instead, she overgeneralized an example into a "universal" life lesson that is far from universal. That over-generalization is what I'm criticizing specifically.
    What if it were phrased as "listen to others' needs before your own", as opposed to "putting other's needs"?
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    What if it were phrased as "listen to others' needs before your own", as opposed to "putting other's needs"?
    Leaving it at "being productive sometimes means compromising your sensitivities" would've worked. She erred when she made it about "maturity" and "personal growth". I think the existence of successful egocentrics and people whose personal growth path is to be more assertive of their own needs is enough to prove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kierva View Post
    Then write it in the blog. Don't tease us. Do a Beyoncé.
    I wrote it in the blog.

    Little theatrical, I admit.
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    Why is it NF, for example, and not NP for INFPs? Same for S, why is it SP and not SF for ISFPs? Why the difference in categorising the N/S types into the temperaments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archilochus
    The fox knows many things--the hedgehog one big one.
    And I am not a hedgehog......

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    Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers" not "blessed are the conflict avoiders.....

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    Why can't things in my life just STAY good for once?
    It would be nice to start over again.
    I'd give,
    I'd bend.

    Let's play pretend.
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    Suicide Squad and movie critics. Oh well
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    Quote Originally Posted by theforsaken View Post
    Why can't things in my life just STAY good for once?
    I'm reading a book right now that says, we have to set a friendship with our miseries, we must accept them, talk to them, laugh with them and treat them like a friend, and that happiness is about the way you perceive the world around you..
    I will start working on that myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by geedoenfj View Post
    I'm reading a book right now that says, we have to set a friendship with our miseries, we must accept them, talk to them, laugh with them and treat them like a friend, and that happiness is about the way you perceive the world around you..
    I will start working on that myself
    It is hard. But you are correct in that we should befriend the bad parts in life in order to understand and appreciate the good parts.
    Very wise!
    It would be nice to start over again.
    I'd give,
    I'd bend.

    Let's play pretend.
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