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    I cry during movies, does it make me Fe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inis Mona View Post
    I cry during movies, does it make me Fe?
    Do you cry because you had a shared experience to relate or was it universal ethics and values that instantly got to you? Haha. It's a post for ixtj's though.

    Since you find yourself to be INFP I think you would experience Fe more because it's your highest shadow function but that doesn't mean you have Fe over Fi.

    I would say an understanding would be agreed to say over "shared experience" as it would be too limiting. But probably of course shared experiences for both types would bring much more empathy I presume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Do you cry because you had a shared experience to relate or was it universal ethics and values that instantly got to you? Haha. It's a post for ixtj's though.

    Since you find yourself to be INFP I think you would experience Fe more because it's your highest shadow function but that doesn't mean you have Fe over Fi.

    I would say an understanding would be agreed to say over "shared experience" as it would be too limiting. But probably of course shared experiences for both types would bring much more empathy I presume.
    i don't relate to people based on a shared experience. I can vividly imagine my own self being at that situation and often can get so involved in a movie that I feel like what is happening to them is happening to me...so I just feel what they feel. It happens with people in real life too sometimes, but not as often. I think fitting yourself in someone else's shoes is more Fi than Fe though... Fe is more about the emotional manipulation and recognition of external values.
    I really don't think I am Fe-Ti user for several more reasons, that are just too complicated for me to explain them here... But yes, I am Fi-Te based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inis Mona View Post
    i don't relate to people based on a shared experience. I can vividly imagine my own self being at that situation and often can get so involved in a movie that I feel like what is happening to them is happening to me...so I just feel what they feel. It happens with people in real life too sometimes, but not as often. I think fitting yourself in someone else's shoes is more Fi than Fe though... Fe is more about the emotional manipulation and recognition of external values.
    I really don't think I am Fe-Ti user for several more reasons, that are just too complicated for me to explain them here... But yes, I am Fi-Te based.
    Hmm. I meant to tag you to see if it works with me not to type you in fact I agree with 100% you just said there. I did say understanding over shared experience so that meant I disagreed with that part in the quote. I meant to ask the question sarcastically but it was difficult for you to know that being online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Hmm. I meant to tag you to see if it works with me not to type you in fact I agree with 100% you just said there. I did say understanding over shared experience so that meant I disagreed with that part in the quote. I meant to ask the question sarcastically but it was difficult for you to know that being online.
    ah lol... when it comes to you Forever...it's difficult to say when I only know your online persona. I think Fi vs Fe are the hardest to spot online, because it is a lot about your interaction with the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inis Mona View Post
    ah lol... when it comes to you Forever...it's difficult to say when I only know your online persona. I think Fi vs Fe are the hardest to spot online, because it is a lot about your interaction with the world.
    It's okay haha. You kind of always thought I had more Fi/Te than Fe/Ti right? It's weird to say I am an INTJ because it's like saying well you're more comfortable with Te than Fi.

    I believe that if you're an introvert, you find it easier to use introverted functions more than extraverted functions and vice versa. Now I know I don't sound like the rest of the INTJ's here but I did know I didn't sound like the rest of the INFJ's here either haha although I am the only Male for that type if it were to be true.

    I'll keep seeing how Fe/Ti works. if you changed your mind and believe I am more of a Fe Ti user let me know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    It's okay haha. You kind of always thought I had more Fi/Te than Fe/Ti right? It's weird to say I am an INTJ because it's like saying well you're more comfortable with Te than Fi.

    I believe that if you're an introvert, you find it easier to use introverted functions more than extraverted functions and vice versa. Now I know I don't sound like the rest of the INTJ's here but I did know I didn't sound like the rest of the INFJ's here either haha although I am the only Male for that type if it were to be true.

    I'll keep seeing how Fe/Ti works. if you changed your mind and believe I am more of a Fe Ti user let me know!
    Oddly, I truly have a hard time seeing you as anything but INFJ. Fe is just as much about disengaging as it's about engaging with people and so called "social morality". Actually, I don't really relate to the Fe BS that you dislike. Many folks are just idiots who reinforce the Fe caricature and can't think for themselves.

    My good ENFJ friend and I actually regularly mock people who get too hung up on social protocol and "social morality"... we call them sheeple.

    Unless you relate to the core of Fi, don't necessarily write off Fe.

    The fact that you and @21lux are so keenly attuned to the fact of how you don't fit into the context of Fe and how you just don't relate to other Fe types seems like a rather Fe-centered concern because that, in itself, is using the "group" or other people as an objective measure. IXTJs are just like "meh, whatever... this is who I am... take it or leave it..." even when they are being quite kind and sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protege View Post
    Oddly, I truly have a hard time seeing you as anything but INFJ. Fe is just about much as about disengaging as it's about engaging with people and so called "social morality". Actually, I don't really relate to the Fe BS that you dislike. Many folks are just idiots who reinforce the Fe caricature and can't think for themselves.

    My good ENFJ friend and I actually regularly mock people who get too hung up on social protocol and "social morality"... we call them sheeple.

    Unless you relate to the core of Fi, don't necessarily write off Fe.
    Fe is not suppose to mock..its not politically correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protege View Post
    Oddly, I truly have a hard time seeing you as anything but INFJ. Fe is just as much about disengaging as it's about engaging with people and so called "social morality". Actually, I don't really relate to the Fe BS that you dislike. Many folks are just idiots who reinforce the Fe caricature and can't think for themselves.

    My good ENFJ friend and I actually regularly mock people who get too hung up on social protocol and "social morality"... we call them sheeple.

    Unless you relate to the core of Fi, don't necessarily write off Fe.

    The fact that you and @21lux are so keenly attuned to the fact of how you don't fit into the context of Fe and how you just don't relate to other Fe types seems like a rather Fe-centered concern because that, in itself, is using the "group" or other people as an objective measure. IXTJs are just like "meh, whatever... this is who I am... take it or leave it..." even when they are being quite kind and sweet.
    I feel like I relate to all 4 functions. Not to sound arrogant of course. There are days where I'm like ok what's efficient. Done done done. I figure out when it came to science groups, stuff actually gets done when I tell people what to do all it kind of irritates me I have to boss them around. Then when it comes to music I am very like this is so me this isn't me. Same as clothes and friends. If they don't reflect me, then I want little time with them. With Fe I can sooth talk others and make them want me but sometimes I never really get the result I want unless I'm really respected. With Ti I believe it's like overthinking everything but I feel like it's still Te for me.

    I tend to feel emotions more deeply than other people and I'm afraid to show it lest people start to drift away and they actually do. I'm very unconventional too to the point I know I break many social norms everyday and I feel like they only get in the way than help me. I don't have friends really in college and I hate it but at the same time I sort of understand why but I don't want to change really because it isn't "me".

    I look for individuals who stand out but can be eloquent at the same time. I know I'm not the perfect example either and sometimes I feel what I want isn't always real. I tend to notice how people feel after the fact after I have thought it through and that's often too late for most.

    People like me because I am myself I never feel like it's work to get people to like me. Primarily it's because people find it so funny that I can see opposing viewpoints so painfully there that they just love me for it. It gets tiring to keep listing the other side to get people to like me though. I only often mention the other side because I want to let people know that I actually think the whole thing through not just to be charming or sweet necessarily.

    Haha I just tend to forget about everyone else.

    Oh yeah and depending on what I wear I get tons of looks of contempt where I'm actually pissed off people can't just keep their tastes to themselves and this is probably Fe I stop wearing it because I feel so ostracized from just their looks. Although some days I can just walk and look at no one and I'm okay.

    ETA: okay I break some social norms, not tons lol. I go to a religious college and while it's safe and cheap. I feel like nobody here can relate to me because I'm agnostic and technically I'm not supposed to be here because I have left the faith but it's cheap and I'm kind of a little far in. It's a bit morally ambiguous and I hate it.

    It's a rule for men to have their hair short and shave everyday. I do the latter more but I like having longer hair but not super long. I know I stand out because I break that rule and really most men there don't. I skip church which is also a requirement there. I sometimes swear which you shouldn't there. And I let my roommates break some rules which is a rule that you should tell on them if they break rules.

    Now I could go Fe hardcore obey most of the rules the ones especially concerning appearance because unfortunately that's how people judge and wear really boring clothes everyday and lower myself to be someone who I am not and lie that I am a devout believer and blah blah blah and maybe not risk depression but possibly still will because I am not true to myself.

    I would go to church if I was unsure, but now I'm more solid in not being that faith I actually get pissed for people to share what they believe which I find not to be true. I keep leaving church angry I don't think an Fe user would care because these people are not advocating to hurt others or debase other people. I just find it utterally false and people not thinking for themselves and blindly accepting authority.

    Do you see why it's so hard for me to pick a functional axis?
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