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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Yeah, I know groups like this that are stupid as hell and can't really come to any type of agreement. Then end up breaking off on their own and find groups that are more alike because they work better together and accomplish more.
    I encountered a related idea recently in another article. Google researched their teams to determine success or failure. Some groups had a bunch of very smart people. Others had average skills.

    The successful teams were those with good interpersonal relations. Everyone got heard. Some argued a lot. Others joked a lot. Neither dynamic out did the other.

    But it was Google found that teams members with higher ability to read people did better than those with lower interpersonal skills.

    So even teams with average skills could perform extremely well if they were in sync, no matter the style.
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    The fox knows many things--the hedgehog one big one.
    And I am not a hedgehog......

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    Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers" not "blessed are the conflict avoiders.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellmold View Post
    Especially if they are trying to reach a mutual goal.
    Actually, the Wisdom of Crowds idea that each person acting independently, then aggregate result will be very close to correct.

    Four different ex. from the book

    Guessing the weight of a cow at a fair....787 people guessed and were with a single pound once averaged the responses (1127 lbs vs 1128)

    A missing submarine.... team from various backgrounds each provided their ideas. Combining every idea, came up with a location which no one individual picked. Sub was found 220 yards from spot....out of the entire Atlantic Ocean...

    Third ex: pro football betting. Line is set to split the wagers. Final score is near tbe final line in 99% of cases.

    Fourth ex. Challenger explosion. 4 companies primarily involved got hit with stock drops, but rocket manufacturer got biggest hit, 12% down vs. 3% down. 6 months later, rocket manufacturer found at fault.

    Investigation for improper stock trades followed, but none were found. Market just decided in hours what was found out months later.....

    I guess you could call it a mutual goal, but only in the extent they are trying to be right. They are competing with each other....
    Quote Originally Posted by Archilochus
    The fox knows many things--the hedgehog one big one.
    And I am not a hedgehog......

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    Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers" not "blessed are the conflict avoiders.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    Interesting....
    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Yeah, I know groups like this that are stupid as hell and can't really come to any type of agreement. Then end up breaking off on their own and find groups that are more alike because they work better together and accomplish more.
    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    I encountered a related idea recently in another article. Google researched their teams to determine success or failure. Some groups had a bunch of very smart people. Others had average skills.

    The successful teams were those with good interpersonal relations. Everyone got heard. Some argued a lot. Others joked a lot. Neither dynamic out did the other.

    But it was Google found that teams members with higher ability to read people did better than those with lower interpersonal skills.

    So even teams with average skills could perform extremely well if they were in sync, no matter the style.
    One word, ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearchingforPeace View Post
    Actually, the Wisdom of Crowds idea that each person acting independently, then aggregate result will be very close to correct.

    Four different ex. from the book

    Guessing the weight of a cow at a fair....787 people guessed and were with a single pound once averaged the responses (1127 lbs vs 1128)

    A missing submarine.... team from various backgrounds each provided their ideas. Combining every idea, came up with a location which no one individual picked. Sub was found 220 yards from spot....out of the entire Atlantic Ocean...

    Third ex: pro football betting. Line is set to split the wagers. Final score is near tbe final line in 99% of cases.

    Fourth ex. Challenger explosion. 4 companies primarily involved got hit with stock drops, but rocket manufacturer got biggest hit, 12% down vs. 3% down. 6 months later, rocket manufacturer found at fault.

    Investigation for improper stock trades followed, but none were found. Market just decided in hours what was found out months later.....

    I guess you could call it a mutual goal, but only in the extent they are trying to be right. They are competing with each other....
    That was my point, yes? I agree with it?

    Probably should have /notsarcasm'ed it. I agree with the premise, it makes sense from what I've seen. It's when people try to interfere with a 'correct' method that all 'should' adapt to that you get problems.
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    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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