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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    this sounds hilarious, i wish you had taken a video
    I should record him next time there are horses on the tv... He hates horses even more than he hates Darth Vader!
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    sometimes aimlessly driving seems like the right thing to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    sometimes aimlessly driving seems like the right thing to do...
    Been there, done that many times.....
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    Just posting to test something related to signatures.

    Edit: It seems as though my signature doesn't edit for things I have already posted? Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by /DG/ View Post
    Just posting to test something related to signatures.

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    I wonder why Js are often said to be neat/organized while Ps are often said to be messy/disorganized.

    I think being neat/messy is more correlated with N/S than P/J. My ENTJ boss actually has quite a strong J, she is always nagging me to be more tidy and organized, but here's the irony.
    My ENTJ boss looks very neat/tidy/organized on the surface, but she actually has a messy/disorganised side hidden beneath that neat/organized side that she presents on the surface. Sometimes, she forget to switch off the lights and fans before she leaves. And then there are times when she will very last minute call me on my off days to come in to work and I ended up having to take a cab to rush to work. And whenever she goes overseas she will always pack her luggage last minute.

    I have an ex-boss who is an ESTJ and she doesn't seem to be as disorganized as my ENTJ boss. So Js are neat/organized and Ps are messy/disorganized huh.. I wanna debunk this theory, this theory isn't very accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny View Post
    I wonder why Js are often said to be neat/organized while Ps are often said to be messy/disorganized.

    I think being neat/messy is more correlated with N/S than P/J. My ENTJ boss actually has quite a strong J, she is always nagging me to be more tidy and organized, but here's the irony.
    My ENTJ boss looks very neat/tidy/organized on the surface, but she actually has a messy/disorganised side hidden beneath that neat/organized side that she presents on the surface. Sometimes, she forget to switch off the lights and fans before she leaves. And then there are times when she will very last minute call me on my off days to come in to work and I ended up having to take a cab to rush to work. And whenever she goes overseas she will always pack her luggage last minute.

    I have an ex-boss who is an ESTJ and she doesn't seem to be as disorganized as my ENTJ boss. So Js are neat/organized and Ps are messy/disorganized huh.. I wanna debunk this theory, this theory isn't very accurate
    I sort of agree with you but what about being forgetful/flighty with details being more of an N attribute instead of being organized? Your ENTJ boss seems to fit this description well, highly organized but forgetful and I don't think the two are the same thing. This isn't real evidence but based on my experience S's in general seem to be less forgetful and remember small inconsequential details (at least to me) while I don't. It's probably because the N mind is more prone to dumping cognitive energy into abstraction rather than concrete.

    I think Ps do have a kind of organization but it's only organized to the P. My workspace and living space becomes an 'organized mess.' To the outside observer it would appear messy but for me there is a method behind the madness. Js tend to replicate the order within their minds externally while Ps keep it internal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieNinjaPirate View Post
    I sort of agree with you but what about being forgetful/flighty with details being more of an N attribute instead of being organized? Your ENTJ boss seems to fit this description well, highly organized but forgetful and I don't think the two are the same thing. This isn't real evidence but based on my experience S's in general seem to be less forgetful and remember small inconsequential details (at least to me) while I don't. It's probably because the N mind is more prone to dumping cognitive energy into abstraction rather than concrete.

    I think Ps do have a kind of organization but it's only organized to the P. My workspace and living space becomes an 'organized mess.' To the outside observer it would appear messy but for me there is a method behind the madness. Js tend to replicate the order within their minds externally while Ps keep it internal.

    Interesting, I can identify with what you wrote about the P part. As a P type myself, my room is often like a pig sty.But do I find myself messy? Nope.
    As long as I am able to find my stuff among those mess, I don't consider myself messy. The only time I consider myself messy is when I start losing items.
    My ENFJ mom often yell at me for being so messy and disorganized, and then she will go around moving all my stuff, she said she is helping me to pack my stuff, but I ended
    up losing my items. And then this is when I start packing my room trying to look for my items.

    The same goes for washing dishes. I often leave my dishes lying around the house for hours after my meals. I don't consider this as being messy/disorganized. But my ENFJ mom will flare up and start yelling at me for not washing those dishes immediately. I don't understand why she is being so angry over it. There are no ants crawling on those dishes right, so why do I have to wash those dishes immediately? This makes no sense to me.

    I realize that Js tend to look at us Ps as messy/disorganized, but like what you said, it's not that we Ps are messy, it's just that our external world seem messy, but our sense of organization is within our minds and no matter how messy our external world may look like we can always find our items among those piles of mess
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