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    The faster I read, the less I retain.

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    I took a speed-reading course when I was a kid, and was able to get up to 800-900 words per minute, but I noticed that it was inevitable that my comprehension and retention of the material suffered. Afterward, I wondered why the hell people would really care to read faster when the inevitable outcome was worse absorption of the material. I don't care what claims speed readers make, their appreciation and understanding of the material inevitably suffers. Just look at those multiple choice questions they ask to see if you've understood/retained the material: they're the most surface level details. Congratulations that you can read 'War and Peace' in two hours! Did you even enjoy it? It's like watching a movie on fast forward. How are you even going to appreciate the artistry and nuance? Yeah, I guess you can pick up on the outline of the plot, but did you appreciate the particular word choice on page 497 when Tolstoy was describing xyz? I mean, I get that sometimes you want to read stuff fast (but, tbh, as time has gone on, I've even come to doubt this, to an extent), but you're essentially just skimming the material, imo. When I read something, I generally lose track of where I am on the page and go off on completely different thought paths, and doing so is a large part of the point of reading, imo. I consider all kinds of things that aren't directly what is on the page. And even appreciation of what is on the page suffers from reading too fast.

    That being said, I did the test three times, reading at my leisure, and scored 4% below average, 9% above average, and 14% above average. I'm assuming my speed would probably increase with each iteration of the test, as I do get into a groove while reading, and my pace will pick up as I attune myself to the author's style. I just can't imagine the purpose of never really even attuning yourself to the author's style, or lingering on the author's word choice cuz it's just that delicious, or not considering how xyz could have turned out differently had A just done B, cuz you're so intent on rushing through the material.
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    It's probably worth adding that I tend to do everything (eating, yoga, taking tests) at a slower pace than other people.

    And I really make no attempt to change it; why would I want to eat faster? I like the pace at which I eat.

    Edit: Well, except for talking. Apparently, sometimes, when I talk, I get into a frenzy.

    Edit2: And maybe thinking. I do tend to think fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    ... I'm assuming my speed would probably increase with each iteration of the test, as I do get into a groove while reading, and my pace will pick up as I attune myself to the author's style. I just can't imagine the purpose of never really even attuning yourself to the author's style, or lingering on the author's word choice cuz it's just that delicious, or not considering how xyz could have turned out differently had A just done B, cuz you're so intent on rushing through the material.
    I can identify with almost your entire post (although I've never taken a speed-reading course ), but in particular the above.

    I too tend to speed up once I'm 'in the groove' of a particular author / way things are presented. But initially, I have to admit, I think I'm pretty darn slow.

    / didn't take the test in the OP, as I think there's a difference between being able to READ really fast, i.e. the words go in and out of your brain at the same time and you don't retain much of anything, and retaining everything that you read. My goal is usually retaining as much as possible (and thinking the nuance often adds to the overall message/understanding of it), although as I've gotten older I've let go of some of that, more notably in some fiction books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    It's probably worth adding that I tend to do everything (eating, yoga, taking tests) at a slower pace than other people.

    And I really make no attempt to change it; why would I want to eat faster? I like the pace at which I eat.
    I'm with you on that one. I have a reputation among the people I know as eating incredibly slow. I'm fine with that. My understanding is eating slowly prevents overeating and obesity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    I'm with you on that one. I have a reputation among the people I know as eating incredibly slow. I'm fine with that. My understanding is eating slowly prevents overeating and obesity.
    Not only that, but how about just enjoying what you're eating?

    I think it's actually a great analogue to speed-reading.

    "Congratulations! You just ate a 3-star Michelin meal in under one minute!"
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    I dont think I did this correctly but I'm apparently 18% slower than the average, I read it slowly because I thought there'd be questions, I got all three correct. I think that book is War of The Worlds, at least I think I recall reading that before.

    In the results they tell you how long it would take you to read different books and to be frank I'm shocked that The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand gets a mention, I'd rather read Marquis De Sade, and I'm not a fan of raving lunatic perverts writing about sodomy as anyone could guess.
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    You read 376 words per minute.
    That makes you 50% faster than the national average.

    though I cheated I knew the questions before hand. of course I failed the first time because unless i get questions ahead of time I don't remember what I read.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    You read 342 words per minute.
    That makes you 37% faster than the national average.

    I guess it's not too bad, considering Engrish aint ma furst langage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
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    Actually, I see words as pictures, which is a type of dyslexia. And, I wouldn't have it any other way.

    I read somewhere that it is also a rare characteristic of Autism, but I'm not sure.
    Reminds me of synesthesia (colors <-> music)

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