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  1. #11
    Senior Member UniqueMixture's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    what would be the characteristics of your paradise?
    Infinite quantum permutation with non-cobllapsing fock spaces and recursive superpositionality. Only the "bad" things which collapse the probability waves would not exist. Although, I still would get to fight bioengineered dragons. It would be like Dante's Paradiso sans the j-man, also there'd be human/animal hybrids, and I'd fly around the universe bringing sentience and mirth to various solar bodies.

    Also everyone would have fabricators to make their own clothes, food, etc. Also, there would be blue, red, purple, etc people and plant-human hybrids so the vast majority of our energy could come from the sun. Also there would be women made out of lasagna.

    Also, I would take hobos and strap jet packs on them and we'd go to the bahamas and teach dogs how to surf. We'd come back to my castle where those 1950s girls on rollerskates would deliver our steaks on platters in the shape of porcelain sabre-toothed tigers. Then we'd walk around with esfjs on collars pulling our chariots forward . (That last one was just thrown in to be kooky)

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    A more equitable distribution of wealth. Everyone would be able to afford to have their basic needs met. Food, clothing, shelter, health care, etc.

    Peace and no violence between individuals.

    More people are motivated by goodwill rather than greed.

    A land of sheer beauty that's not troubled by pollution.

    Individuality and privacy are respected. People are free to do what they want without the government spying on them just as long as it is it not harming other people.
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    - Replicators would exist as in Star Trek, the ability to create food or pretty much any other commodity would be available to anyone, equally these devices would premit the recycling of anything created by them so there would be no waste. This would transform all individuals from passive consumers to active producers, identifying and meeting their own needs.

    - While TV, film etc. might still exist in my utopia they are unpopular or relics of the past, such as snuff and collecting snuff boxes are today. This would transform all individuals from passive spectators or observers of life and of others to really living out their lives themselves instead.

    - Rebalancing of life means that exercise and fitness are as vital and normative as regular meals, just as no one would on average decide to eat only once or to refrain from eating all day, no one would think about not taking exercise and it wouldnt be something which was in conflict with work or leisure.

    - Noise and other environmental pollutions have all been eliminated. Think of the most polluted river, stream or pond you know and now think of it being clear, safe to drink and swim in.

    - The weather is controlled to ensure an ecological balance so the world is a paradise of greenery, anyone who wants to can pick and eat the produce of the land. Plants and animals with mythical properties would exist, including money trees, although the first point kind of makes money irrelevent.

    - Without the present interdependence created by capitalism everyone would, for the first time ever in recorded history, be able to actively practice a practically dissassociating themselves from anti-social elements, whether its your family or people in the neighbourhood, you really dont have to have anything to do with them. As a result the anti-social and criminal will be left to their own devices and surely perish from the natural consequences of the lives they're living. No public authority would be requisit in this situation, the functions of government will no longer be the preserve of professionals by virtue of a necessary division of labour.

    - The free development of each is the condition for the free development of all, just as people choose not to take anything to do with anti-social people they will instead choose to spend time with others like them who're engaged in some sort of healthy personal development instead. This is a sort of spontaneous and unpolitical socialism or fraternity, the kind which as an extrovert I really think makes life worth living.

    - It will only ever rain and night and all the food will taste like your favourite relatives cooking when you were growing up. Deserts will always be before the main course
    All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
    Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

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    Hmm, I don't think I'd want to live in a perfect world.
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    no intoixated food
    we would eventually find ways to clean up the mess we have created (everyting is allready intoxicated, environment pollution is not just a cosmetic issue)
    plenty of nature

    no consumerism/growth-insanity/capitalism, no trading with illusive things like money/dept, no banks. resorse based economy.
    no incompetent people in positions of power, responsibility (over issues that matter people other then themselves) or production
    (socially enforced regulation, mostly based on education based cultural insight into differenciating competence from brute force)

    freedom to be yourself (by choice, to the best of your self-knowledge):
    people differ in stages of developelent, iq, typology, personality (which coworkers you get along with), culture/language/preferences of residence/domicile, education
    due to high degreee of specialisation in a modern world (there will be many jobs we can hardly think of today), many people (9 to 13 billion people) are needed, so that there is one compatible person for every job. 'compatible' according to what i have listed above. it's not an issue, if some people can't seem to find anything they are good at and happen to be job-less. in a resource based society, basic income is certain. (not everything has to be weighted in monetary numbers either, but they are practical, so i won't do away with them altogether). but if people don't have to work for money, they get way more creative in finding occupation. there will be people who can take care of any detail of life. people will become self-aware, guided by intrinsic motivations, like authentic personal- and spiritual- growth. of course education considers the natural differences in people (like typology) as well. we don't force people into unatural lifes and therefore we won't bring out the worst in them, motivation and character wise.

    an integrated political system. it's transnational, in parts democratic but democracy doesn't vote for politicians. "politician" becomes a job that is competence based. votes are concerned with issues. not all issues are voted for by everyone. there will be a complex constitution of course. citizens have some influence on the global level, since some global issues matter to all citizens. (start here, if you don't mind: )
    but citizens don't overwrite areas that are coverned by objective competence. but half of descicions are never objective, so there will be a place for such democratic influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    -Dating would be easy, because people would be able to know when their desires match the other person's. At the same time person x wants to kiss person y + person y wants to kiss person x, both would get a mental note that they're good to go. Same thing with sex. People would only get notified when both have the same desire. Married people would have the option to turn it off, to avoid awkward moments.
    isn't there an app for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I've suggested that on quite a few occasions! (deceit, lies, serial killers... tune in for this season of survivor:death row island! )

    - volcanoes would be sufficiently cone shaped, and therefore pleasing to our basic childhood beliefs that they are so

    - seasons would be proper to the region in question... in the midwest, for an example, it would always snow on christmas eve and summers would be long and lazy and hot, with plenty of cicadas in the trees buzzing

    - educational funding would be good enough that there would be such a supply of teachers that we could pick and choose and only hire the best, so that school would be a lot of fun and super educational... there would also be a lot of field trips!

    - mythical creatures would actually exist because that would be kind of fun

    - santa claus, the easter bunny and things of that sort would be real as well... and they'd bring presents and candy to adults as well

    - travel around the world would be cheap and efficient so that the world could be sufficiently appreciated

    - everybody could live comfortably and have what they need to survive

    - all people would be curious, open minded and happy to learn from one another... therefore learning would be made easier as would advancement!

    - people really would treat others well and with respect!

    - time travel would be a perfectly acceptable means of vacationing... so would travel through space... and other planets would be populated by friendly and fascinating aliens

    - the sense of humor gene would be widespread and would have become an essential component to human dna... like having lungs... therefore everyone would love to laugh

    - there would be more of an innocent and childlike sense of mystery about the universe and wonder at how amazing it really is

    - there would finally be enough time to do and see and learn everything you want to learn... and time enough to enjoy it finally

    that's it for now... I'm sure that I can easily come up with more things
    I would LOVE to live in your utopia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcelain Hearts View Post
    I would LOVE to live in your utopia!
    you get the first ticket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    Hmm, I don't think I'd want to live in a perfect world.
    Agreed. I think it would be pretty boring. Conflict makes the world go round, so to speak.

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