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Quadras

Metis

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"Alphas value Ti, Ne, Fe, and Si; Betas value Ti, Se, Fe, and Ni; Gammas value Fi, Se, Te, and Ni; and Deltas value Fi, Ne, Te, and Si."
Socionics Quadras


A lot of the stuff they say about Alpha Quadra here applies to me surprisingly well:
Socionics Quadras: Alpha


Apparently, it should also apply to SFJs, not just NTPs. Does it? If you're an SFJ, do you see very much of yourself in that description?
 

Zeego

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It applies to you because you're Alpha in Socionics. It won't apply to all NTPs/SFJs in MBTI. In Socionics, ENTp and ISFp are characterized as having a lot in common because the system is focused more on the Reinin dichotomies than the letter dichotomies. MBTI, despite what function purists will tell you, is much more focused on letters. So ENTP and ISFJ are characterized as being complete opposites.
 

Avocado

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"Alphas value Ti, Ne, Fe, and Si; Betas value Ti, Se, Fe, and Ni; Gammas value Fi, Se, Te, and Ni; and Deltas value Fi, Ne, Te, and Si."
Socionics Quadras


A lot of the stuff they say about Alpha Quadra here applies to me surprisingly well:
Socionics Quadras: Alpha


Apparently, it should also apply to SFJs, not just NTPs. Does it? If you're an SFJ, do you see very much of yourself in that description?

MBTI and Socionics do not form a 1:1 correllation, so it depends.
 

Metis

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It applies to you because you're Alpha in Socionics. It won't apply to all NTPs/SFJs in MBTI. In Socionics, ENTp and ISFp are characterized as having a lot in common because the system is focused more on the Reinin dichotomies than the letter dichotomies. MBTI, despite what function purists will tell you, is much more focused on letters. So ENTP and ISFJ are characterized as being complete opposites.

Thank you for that explanation. You know a lot about these various typology systems.

MBTI and Socionics do not form a 1:1 correllation, so it depends.

Good point.
 

Julius_Van_Der_Beak

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I definitely identify with the Alpha quadra, for what it's worth.
 
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