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    Default Is Kindred better for Rationals than Irrationals, due to shared Rational functions?

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    Rational = Dominant Judger - base function is a judging (rational) function

    Irrational = Dominant Perceiver - base function is a perceiving (irrational) function

    I would imagine that e.g. LxI Kindreds (LSI and LII) would have an easier time of general communication, working together (in a coworker/work sense), generally getting along well. Compared to e.g. SxI Kindreds (SEI and SLI).

    I say this because the Rational Kindred pairs share Rational functions. While the Irrational Kindred pairs do not share Rational functions. I have found that shared Rational functions are more important for communication than shared Irrational functions. - What have you found?

    Maybe it is because I am a Fi subtype. But I have more clashes with SLEs, especially SLE-Ti's. I think for example ESI and EII would have fewer Kindred clashes.

    Obviously, in both the Rational and Irrational cases, the creative is the other's PoLR. But that is just by definition of Kindred anyway.

    What do you think and what are your experiences of the Kindred relation? Are you Rational or Irrational?
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    I am an irrational. And oh man. I love them SLI types
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21lux View Post
    I am an irrational. And oh man. I love them SLI types
    Interesting... Do you type as SEI-Si? (Going off memory here - I see you don't have your Sociotype listed)

    It stands to reason that SEI-Si would get along better with SLIs, while SEI-Fe would get along better with IEIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strychnine View Post
    Interesting... Do you type as SEI-Si? (Going off memory here - I see you don't have your Sociotype listed)

    It stands to reason that SEI-Si would get along better with SLIs, while SEI-Fe would get along better with IEIs.
    Yes that's what I type as although I've also been told that my questionnaires sound rather delta and Te valuing. Maybe because I hang around too many SLIs
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    I have no isssues with irrationals. To each their own. Now, this is as long as tbey dont force their ways onto me on things that matter to me. My SO is an irrationl. We are good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    I have no isssues with irrationals. To each their own. Now, this is as long as tbey dont force their ways onto me on things that matter to me. My SO is an irrationl. We are good
    Please explain how this is at all relevant to the thread.

    Alternatively, since you type as ISTp, do you get along better with ISFps or INTps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strychnine View Post
    Please explain how this is at all relevant to the thread.

    Alternatively, since you type as ISTp, do you get along better with ISFps or INTps?
    Generally i get along with Fs better irregardless of other letters. I enjoy the stark difference between myself and F types. I get along with infp better then isfp generally. I like the contrast as well. I have a thing for different, unknown, etc.
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    I think it might be better for irrationals, tbh.

    So, I am socionics ISFj (mbti isfp) and my kindred is socionics INFj (often mbti infp). I have been close to two ELL's (for a decent amount of time) one whom, I lived with for about 6 months.. the other a co-worker, that quickly developed into an closer, out of work friendship, that I've stayed in contact with for more than 10 years.

    The perceptual differences are notable, really. Se/Ni versus Ne/si.
    Ime, there is little pull or psychological activation between us.

    It is comforting, at times, to recognize what we both have high conscious access to (fi) and what we suck at (te) but it doesn't actually help us in any more external, worldly application. It's as though we can rarely help each other in 'doing' anything, and while we can easily identify (and possibly appreciate) each others mature access to fi, and sucky access to Te, the perceptual differences are foreign enough to never feel as though we are 'home' with each other.


    Which is why I believe, irrationals might actually appreciate each other more-so. They share perception, but go about applying this knowledge in widey different (yet equally valuable) arenas with their judging functions. It helps them navigate the external better, the value in it is more concrete and obvious.

    And over the years, I've noticed that its not uncommon for say, Ni doms or Ne doms to mention (on various groups or forums) how much they appreciate what their kindred can do, even if it is very different from what they would do themselves. I have actually never seen this from intp's about istp's, or Isfp's about infp's. Maybe Enfj's about esfj's... but thats dom Fe for ya, its appreciation is so undiscerning it hardly counts. hah.

    Could be a fluke, I dunno. But my intuition says irrationals might appreciate their kindred's more.
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    Personally, I get along better with EIEs thanwith LSEs, I think subtype has something to do with this though.
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    Thanks all,

    I do think the subtype has something to do with it in my case, too. It explains why I (SEE-Fi) clash so much with SLEs, especially SLE-Ti's, where it's almost mutual supervision, lol.

    I imagine SEE-Se and SLE-Se would be more like two peas in a pod, eh

    I don't know any IEE-Fi's, so can't comment on the Look-Alike/Business intertype relation there.
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